Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

France is Burning (Muslims burn Paris; MSM ignores it to protect Religion of Peace)
Strategy Page ^ | 11/1/05

Posted on 11/01/2005 7:25:23 AM PST by pabianice

POTENTIAL HOT SPOTS: France Is Burning

Items About Areas That Could Break Out Into War

November 1, 2005: France is burning. For most of the last week, there have been nasty riots in the Parisian suburb of St Denis, complete with fires and many casualties. This area is home to about 500,000 Moslems. Many largely Moslem suburbs of Paris, and other large cities, have become no-go zones for the police, and anyone who is not of Middle Eastern origin. Over the last three decades, generous social benefits and immigration policies have left France with a Moslem population of some five million (about eight percent of the population.) High rise housing for them was built on the outskirts of major cities. Most of these Moslems did not try to assimilate, and by maintaining their old country culture and language, they made it more difficult for their kids to get jobs. Among the old school customs practiced is attacking, and even murdering, girls who do not conform to a "Moslem" style of behavior. While jobs may be lacking, crime and social welfare payments are not. So peop! le can live without jobs, and make a little extra with some crime on the side. But when you have a lot of people participating in, or just condoning, criminal behavior, you have a very dangerous place for outsiders. Officially, the government condemns this sort of "profiling," but a look at crime statistics shows that high rates of robbery, murder and rape tend to coincide with Moslem areas. There are unofficial maps on the Internet, where French citizens can check about where not to get lost the next time they go for a drive.

Meanwhile, the high crime rates in the Moslem neighborhoods has been spilling over into non-Moslem areas, and there has been a major outbreak of anti-Semitic attacks on Jews, and Jewish targets (synagogues, cemeteries, Etc.). It's not only become embarrassing for the government, but it's become a political issue. So the Interior Ministry has established special police units to try and reduce the crime rate in the Moslem areas. That has led to the recent rioting, arson, injuries, and advice by French traditionalists to just ignore the French Moslems. Leave them alone. Ignore them. Just like France has been doing for decades. Let the counter-terrorism police take care of any hotheads. But for the moment, the Interior Ministry is run by law-and-order types, and they are determined to at least own the streets in Moslem areas. So France burns.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arableague; europeanunion; france; germany; intifada; islam; islamofacism; jihad; jihadineurope; nato; newsblackout; paris; parisriots; radicalmuslims; russia; thequartet; unitedkingdom; waronterror
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 241-243 next last
To: Arpege92

Cheers, man!


61 posted on 11/01/2005 7:46:26 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: Wonder Warthog

"It's a quagmire!"
No---it's a cancer, and the cure for those is well known.


yep, radiation !


62 posted on 11/01/2005 7:47:54 AM PST by daku
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: jackson29

Uh oh!


63 posted on 11/01/2005 7:48:08 AM PST by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan

The Foreign Legion may have to invade France to save it for a change........


64 posted on 11/01/2005 7:48:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Spies are the most important asset, because on them depends an army's ability to march. - SUN TZU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan
The world is a complicated place, and here is a complication: The French have nuclear capabilities. Once the muslims take power, it will mean a nuclear capable muslim state.

Probably so. But if we lift as much as one finger to help the frogs -- even WITH the approval of that idiot Chirac or whatver socialist nincompoop succeeds him -- we'll be labeled "occupiers," "anti-Islam," and worse.

Sorry, but I feel this is France's problem. They'd better grow up and start acting like adults in a hurry or they'll end up a sheet of glass, and not necessarily by us.

65 posted on 11/01/2005 7:48:49 AM PST by Kieri
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: rhombus
Should the US threaten a veto?

We should. And demand the French end their occupation of France.

66 posted on 11/01/2005 7:48:58 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Ashamed Canadian

"Cheers, man!"

Ahemmmm.....it's "Cheers, woman!" ;-} Women can fight pretty good too you know.


67 posted on 11/01/2005 7:49:56 AM PST by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

"What is best in life?" To crush TROP, to drive their collaborators before you, and to hear the lamentations of their mullahs! Allahu fubar!


68 posted on 11/01/2005 7:50:26 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: MileHi

LMAO


69 posted on 11/01/2005 7:50:34 AM PST by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: beltfed308

A start..


70 posted on 11/01/2005 7:50:57 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: pabianice

Wonder what it will take before France smells the coffee, wakes up and takes action. Or are they so addicted to the drugs of surrender that they will die in their sleep?


71 posted on 11/01/2005 7:51:22 AM PST by x_plus_one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: daku

Enlightenment via "the light of a thousand suns".


72 posted on 11/01/2005 7:52:15 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

yes, they will get so angry they will start waving zee white flags.....


73 posted on 11/01/2005 7:53:36 AM PST by michaelbfree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: pabianice

74 posted on 11/01/2005 7:53:44 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pabianice
There are unofficial maps on the Internet, where French citizens can check about where not to get lost

Anyone got links to these maps, I would look but I have to leave my computer?

75 posted on 11/01/2005 7:54:00 AM PST by razorback-bert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pabianice
" France Is Burning… "

How much of France is burning?

" Could Break Out Into War "

A lot of things “could” happen.

" fires and many casualties."

How many is “many” casualties?

" Many largely Moslem suburbs of Paris, and other large cities, have become no-go zones for the police"

Any listing to those “many” no-go zones for police?

" statistics shows that high rates of robbery, murder and rape tend to coincide with Moslem areas."

What statistics, and how much greater is that than high crime in our ghettos?

I’d like to see the French realize they need to fight rather than appease Islamism as much as anyone here, but this story reads like a right wing version of the propaganda we’re used to from CNN.

76 posted on 11/01/2005 7:54:13 AM PST by elfman2 (In Key Largo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: x_plus_one

Maybe ole Chuck big-ears should stop in Paris and lecture the French on the religion of peace and tolerance before he comes here and lectures us on it..

by the way, the two muslim males that got electrocuted (the incident that started all this) were running from the police from what I've read..now they couldn't have done anything wrong other than be profiled for being muslim, but I'm curious..just in case they were doing something illegal to be chased, what did they do..has anyone heard??


77 posted on 11/01/2005 7:54:15 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Honest officer, I wasn't speeding.....I was qualifying)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: All

Here is a link to an article on Yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051101/wl_afp/franceriots_051101054304

If you are interested in spreading this news, go to the article, scroll down, and rate it 5 stars to recommend the article. If enough people recommend it, maybe it will show up as a news on Yahoo's main page.


78 posted on 11/01/2005 7:54:40 AM PST by faq (cliche dissenting republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pabianice
Time to re-post this:

June 23, 2004

Douce France . by Hugh Fitzgerald

Imagine that you are a cosseted member of the French elite. One child is doing the khâgne, aiming for rue d’Ulm. Another is now a politechnicien. You are very comfortable, working for the state. You and your spouse are journalists, or writers, or one of that vast tribe of people conducting “recherches” and life is comfortable, good, the way it should be. Yes, you do notice more and more Muslims about you as you walk, no longer in the banlieues, but in the center of Paris, or Toulouse, or Lyon. And you remember how uneasy you felt, four years ago, when you happened to be walking on the Cannebière in Marseille. You decided, then and there, that you would not return.

And you have friends who live in the south. And they tell you that the beurs – some call them maghrébins -- make life hell for everyone. They attack French children on the way to school. They vandalize cars. They threaten, and do more than threaten, anyone who is still foolish enough to walk out wearing a kippah or a cross. Whole areas of cities in the south, as in the north, and east, and west, have become off-limits to non-Muslims. In the schools, the teachers have lost authority. They cannot even cover the subjects of World War II, the Resistance, and the murders of the Jews as the state prescribes; they fear, with reason, the violent reaction of the Muslim students.

And as the schools become more and more dangerous for non-Muslim students and teachers, with more time and resources devoted to discipline rather than to learning, French parents and would-be parents are now silently factoring into their childbearing plans the present value of the future cost of what, they see, will now have to be added: private school tuition. And that means, of course, that those French people will plan on smaller families. And they will also be factoring in the growing cost, paid by them, those French taxpayers, for the whole expanding edifice of security, the guards in the schools, the guards at the train stations and métro stations and airports and at government buildings everywhere, the costs of keeping the gravestones from being vandalized, the costs of protecting the synagogues and the churches, the costs for all those tapped phones and agents in mosques, and subsidies to lawyers and judges to hear charges and try cases against Muslims, and the costs of monitoring da'wa in the prisons (more than 50% Muslim).

But the Muslims are indifferent to expenses incurred by the French state. France is part of the world; the world belongs to Allah, and to his Believers. That doctrine has remained immutable for 1400 years. Imam Bouziane, the one they keep trying to deport, had 16 children by two wives, all living on the French state: a representative Muslim man. Over time, the difference between average family size of Muslims and non-Muslims steadily increases. And, over time, the education system continues to disintegrate. Right now, perhaps, you cannot see it. Your children go to the best schools, followed by the best lycées. You vacation in Normandy, or Brittany, or the Ile de Ré. And you do not take the metro often enough, or walk in the right districts, or work in the right factories or offices, to understand what tens of millions of your fellow Frenchmen now have to endure. You, for the moment, are still immune, still willfully unaware. You have spent the last few decades learning about the Muslim world from Eric Rouleau, and his epigones (after they silenced Peroncel-Hugoz, the one journalist who reported the truth) in Le Monde. You are deeply-versed in the constantly reported-upon, endlessly dilated-upon, perfidy of the mighty empire of Israel. You know what we have all had dinned into us: that the Arab Muslims are reasonable people, with clearly-justified grievances, grievances so reasonable and so limited in scope, that justice demands they be satisfied. Everyone agrees on the “solution.” It is called a “two-state solution” and of course it is a “solution” for otherwise, of course, it would not have been called a “solution.”

And everything looks the way it always has looked: the linden trees, the river, the bridges, the réverbères, the étalage in the neighborhood boulangerie. Douce France, cher pays de mon enfance. At the end of the school day, chic mothers still congregate in little towns, or small cities, outside the school – this or that Ecole Jules Ferry -- waiting to pick up their children. Here come the littlest ones, from Maternelle, running up now -- just look at how small they are. And here are the CE1 group, with those huge cartables on their tiny backs. Run, run, run, to Mommy. Oop-la. And then the years of study, study, study marked by ever-larger cahiers -- "cahier" and "cartable" are the words that identify French DNA better than Piaf or gauloises, isn't that true? And now we will read the books, and study the subjects, set down so completely and precisely by the Ministry of Education. And now we are up to the final year, preparing for the Bac, with copies of blue-backed BALISES, guides to Les Châtiments and La Peau de Chagrin. And just look at the results listed in the newspaper: Claire-Alix has a mention très bien. Fantastic. Everything is fine, everything will always stay the same, whole countries cannot change. It’s not possible.

But it is changing, coming apart, quietly, slowly --let’s not look too closely, we mustn't pay too much attention -- the streets, the schools, the hospitals, the ability to speak the truth about things, about life as it is lived, la vita vissuta as they like to say in a neighboring country. Dominique de Villepin always knew there was nothing to worry about; he was born, after all, in Salé, next to Rabat, even spent a few years of his infancy there; of course he knows his Arabs, his Muslims. And surely Eric Rouleau, who for decades in Le Monde was the resident expert on the Middle East (he was so knowledgeable that he never had to so much as mention the teachings of the Qur’an and Sunna), surely he knew everything, didn't he? And those French translations of Edward Said that denounced with such passion the Islamophobia, and those vicious cliches with which the blind and rotting West has always caricatured the Arab Muslim world. Oh, we have been so terrible to the Arabs, we colonialists, we French, we Westerners. And then there is the never-ending outrage of Israel, that running colonial sore. Of course, they have every right, those Muslims, to come here to France. We went to their countries once, now they come to ours. And they have every right to hate us, don’t they? So now we have decided not to understand, and to cut all ties of sympathy to, Israel -- and how did we ever have any sympathy for it in the first place, the way some of our parents did back in 1948 or 1956 or 1967? How could they not have seen what the "Palestinian people" had to endure? Hanan, Yasser, Said, Saeb, Aziz, Walid, Rashid, Mohammed -- you have won our hearts and minds. Take us, do with us what you will.

No one will mention what is happening or what kinds of things we must begin to think about doing to save ourselves. No one of any decency. And whatever Le Pen and Megret say, we must say the opposite (except, of course, when they show their hostility to "the Jews"). Do not say those things, do not think them. Free thought is all very well in theory, but really -- consider the consequences. Don't dare to think outside that box brimming with idées reçues. Défense de penser au dehors du box.

No, everything will be all right as you stroll down the Avenue Paule-Anne. Those Muslims will never be a match for us. Why, just look at those legionnaires marching à pas lent down the Champs-Elysées, think of that string of desert victories. Inside our heads, it is 1930 and over here is the Exposition coloniale. You remember, tu t’en souviens, that painting by le Douanier Rousseau, don't you, with the burnoosed Arab standing next to the black Senegalese? I have it right, don’t I? France will always be France. Nothing will ever change. At a certain point, and despite everything that causes you not to see what is staring you in the face, you realize that something has gone irreparably wrong with your country, and you, and your children, are in danger of losing that country, down to every village and house, qui m’est une province et beaucoup davantage. And you do not know what to do, or how to explain this feeling to others, or in whom to confide your secret fears, or what can be done. It is so confusing, and so upsetting. You cannot vote for Le Pen. You cannot endorse "cowboy" Bush or those ridiculous Americans. You have no place to go.

And then you learn what Jacques Chirac -- who now has a Muslim grandchild himself -- and Dominique de Villepin, do not wish you to learn. For if you did, you might be very angry. You discover that 1 out of every 3 babies born in France today is a Muslim baby. And that means, in 20 years, one of every three 20-year-olds in France will be a Muslim twenty-year-old. And that means, twenty years after that, at present rates of reproduction, France will have a majority Muslim population. Where shall we hide the statues from Marly-le-roi? And the Venus de Milo? And what about all those paintings of animated life -- all those portraits in the Louvre, and the Grand Palais, and the Musée Guimet down there in linden-lined Aix, and everywhere else in art-filled artful France, mère des arts, des armes, et des loix -- that are absolutely forbidden according to the immutable strictures of the Qur'an. Should they be sent for safekeeping to those Americans across the seas? By then most of the Jews in France will have left, gone across the oceans for their own safekeeping, to Israel or to English-speaking Canada (they were worried about the Muslim population of Quebec, you see, which had been allowed to grow under the Province of Quebec's policy of encouraging francophone immigrants, preferring North Africans to potential immigrants from Italy, Greece, Spain), and above all, to America. What luck those Americans have had. No more bequests to France by the likes of the Rothschilds, or Nissim Camondo. No more Donations from another Pierre Lévy. Enjoy the Kufic calligraphy; some find it endlessly fascinating.

For the moment, you allow yourself to believe that something will come up. Most likely, all those Muslims will simply convert. I mean, they do that, don't they, quite easily I'm told. Of course, why didn't I think of it, that is exactly what will happen. The situation is always saved in time. Just like during the war. Nothing to worry about. Nothing.

79 posted on 11/01/2005 7:55:11 AM PST by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kieri
The world is a complicated place, and here is a complication: The French have nuclear capabilities. Once the muslims take power, it will mean a nuclear capable muslim state.

You won't have to wait that long...Iran will be first...if it isn't already.

80 posted on 11/01/2005 7:55:17 AM PST by standingfirm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 241-243 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson