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4ID begins second deployment to Iraq
ARNEWS ^ | Oct 31, 2005 | Staff Sgt. Brent A. Hunt

Posted on 10/31/2005 3:32:35 PM PST by SandRat

FORT HOOD, TEXAS (Army News Service, Oct. 31, 2005) -- Marking the official beginning of the 4th Infantry Division's deployment to Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Soldiers of the "Ivy" Division cased their colors at a ceremony on Fort Hood's Cameron Field Oct. 28.

Although 470 Soldiers from the division's Support Brigade have already made their way to the troubled region to set up beans and bullets for the incoming troops, the rest of the division's 20,500 Soldiers are scheduled to hit ground through the rest of this year.

"Only 580 days ago, you (the 4th Inf. Div.) cased your first colors when you went to Iraq, yet here we are again," said Lt. Gen. Thomas F. Metz, commanding general of III Corps and Fort Hood. "You have a tough job ahead of you with a tough and nasty insurgency. I can assure you that the enemy knows the 4th Infantry Division is back in town."

Last time, Sunni Triangle

During the division's first OIF deployment in April 2003, the headquarters was established in Tikrit, Iraq, and the division's brigades were located over a large area in the "Sunni Triangle." The 4th ID conducted 11 major division-level operations, which led to the capture of the then-most-wanted man in the world, Saddam Hussein.

This time around, instead of being focused on, among many things, a regime change, Soldiers will be tasked with creating a safe and secure environment for the Iraqi people to form a democratic government, training an Iraqi army and police force to be able to protect themselves and to destroy an influx of terrorists pouring in from neighboring countries dedicated to disrupting the growth of democracy in the Middle East.

This time, to train Iraqis

"Our main goal is to train the Iraqi forces, so they can take care of their own security," said Maj. Gen. J.D. Thurman, commanding general of the 4th Inf. Div. "I believe the Iraqi people will prevail with the help of our American Soldiers, coalition forces, Marines, the Air Force and the Navy, because they are doing a great job over there.

"I expect a lot out of the Iraqi forces," added Thurman. "We are there to help them and they have to take the lead. Everything we do will have Iraqi's in the lead. We want them to be successful, and we will help them be successful but they have to take command."

Division reset into modular BCTs

The division has been extremely busy between deployments. It has prepared 71,000 pieces of equipment in tip-top condition, became the Army's newest modular division, added a Brigade Combat Team and have been the testing ground for some of the military's most high-tech equipment.

In addition, they have trained for months at "combat-speed" by honing their combat skills, dealing with terrorists in an urban setting, negotiating with the locals, dealing with an international media contingency and planning for every conceivable scenario the division might encounter. To add, they have just finished back-to-back-to-back National Training Center rotations in the heat of California's Mojave Desert.

Many veterans of Iraq still with 4ID

"I feel more at ease this time, because I know what's going to happen," said Staff Sgt. Kevin Dukes, operations sergeant with 3rd Battalion, 16th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd BCT, who was with the division the first time it deployed to Iraq. "A lot of Soldiers look up to me, because I have combat experience. I try to instill that the training we do is very important, because it could save your life when we are in Iraq."

Although the division returns to the desert with more than 50 percent of its personnel with combat experience, many Soldiers have never seen combat action and have mixed feelings.

"I'm nervous about going to Iraq, but a little excited," said Spc. John Lewis, health care specialist with Headquarters and Headquarters Battery, 2nd Bn., 77th Field Artillery Regiment, 4th BCT. "Today's ceremony was really moving and it signified the ending here and the beginning of a new life, for a year, when the colors are uncased in Iraq."

Thurman: U.S. must win for grandchildren

Even though the packed crowd of Soldiers, family members and local leaders from the Central Texas community expressed some sadness, they showed a lot of pride in the division, which traces its history to 1917, from World War I to the War on Terrorism.

"I feel the mission will be accomplished when I bring every one of these Soldiers back," said Thurman. "I believe that this mission is important, because I don't want my grandchildren worrying about someone blowing up a mall while they are there. We have to finish this Global War on Terrorism.

"We don't have a choice whether we are successful in this Global War on Terrorism," added Thurman. "We must be successful. The important thing is to never forget what happened on Sept. 11.

(Staff Sgt. Brent A. Hunt serves with the 1st BCT, 4th ID Public Affairs.)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4id; 4thid; begins; deployment; iraq; rotation; second
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To: SandRat
I know SandRat,I was with Karen tonight and she was pretty quiet.Her father just got back from New Orleans last,my son Joe.
21 posted on 10/31/2005 8:00:17 PM PST by fatima (I stole MS.BEHAVIN tagline and I am happy:))
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To: fatima

Hang in there you and they have friends here.


22 posted on 10/31/2005 8:04:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

I know.Will hang in there.Somehow I knew the 4 ID would go back.I just knew it.


23 posted on 10/31/2005 8:12:02 PM PST by fatima (I stole MS.BEHAVIN tagline and I am happy:))
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To: fatima

Well you know you have a whole lot of e-shoulders to cry on until they return, don't you?


24 posted on 10/31/2005 8:14:57 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

I won't cry (((Hugs))) this did not happen yet and I will cry .


25 posted on 10/31/2005 8:23:23 PM PST by fatima (I stole MS.BEHAVIN tagline and I am happy:))
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To: fatima

26 posted on 10/31/2005 8:24:31 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Chevy Sales
Amen to your additions. And surely the 4ID shall do their part to bring this budding democracy through it's final pangs of discovery, both in the political sense and their new found army. It is just very hard for me to believe many an Iraqi who is being trained well in American Army/Marine type soldiering, full of esprit de corps all for one and one for all, covering each other backs, and now fighting side by side with the world's greatest military are not going to miss our guys upon their return to this land, once that threshold point is reached where we can pull out our main forces. To much good will has been generated between our troops and the Iraqi security forces at this point.

They will not be bad mouthing America once their country recovers from it's traumatized state from years of brutal dictatorship.
I have it on good authority that some of the Iraqi commandos in Al Anbar have been calling our Marines their buddies. Surely this is far from what many envision as happening within the Iraqi military establishment we are building from the ground up. We are giving them a true hope for the future.

27 posted on 10/31/2005 8:31:21 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: SandRat

Yo scout! Great pics. Fine memories.


28 posted on 10/31/2005 8:32:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
My newest Job in Scouting is


29 posted on 10/31/2005 8:44:10 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Great and I really mean it congrats! I sense you shall offer super leadership. There is not a day goes by I do not have some fine memories of those years in scouting and all it did for me. My daugther, ex-wife, both brothers and their two children each where in scouting as well as one SIL. So I come from a rather scouting oriented family.
On my honor. I will do my best..... Still works for me and obviously for you. WWW.
30 posted on 10/31/2005 9:15:13 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Chevy Sales
Our military are simply the finest this world has ever seen. It is not just in our military prowness and technological edge , but in the esprit de corps mode of operation. I stand at attention and salute all our men and women in uniform. They are among our finest.
32 posted on 10/31/2005 9:38:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: SandRat

That would make sense if the Marines were engaged in most of the offensive operations. As it it we hear the media lump in deaths in the field with deaths everywhere else. For some reason the military does not highlight offensive operations in the way I would expect.


33 posted on 10/31/2005 9:38:40 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Chevy Sales
"have a great night sir,and God Bless(ed) you."

And like wise to you. Time to hit the rack.

35 posted on 10/31/2005 9:55:30 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: SandRat

BTTT!!!!!!


36 posted on 11/01/2005 3:10:01 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: leadpenny
Damn..we were neighbors!....I crewed slicks and light scouts for the 10th Cav "Shamrocks" from 67 to 69...who were some of the guys that went to the Cav?..bet I know them!!!....I was just commenting about Pleiku on another thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513703/posts ..Do u remember Sin City? ...and by the way...WELCOME HOME BROTHER!
37 posted on 11/01/2005 6:48:58 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: M-cubed
Yes, 1-10 Cav is now part of 2nd Bde, 4 ID.

4th ID

38 posted on 11/01/2005 6:56:41 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: M-cubed

We sure were neighbors.

A Co. had formed up at Ft. Lewis after the rest of the Battalion and the 4th ID had already deployed in the Fall of 66. Captains and Majors came from all over the world. There were a few Lieutenants and a couple CW2s and one CW3 and then there was this band of 16 "Wobbly" Ones.

The Company (Black Jacks) was authorized one Major and maybe five Captains. By the time we flew into Pleiku on brand new C-141s during the first week of 67, we had 11 Majors and 15 Captains.

All of our equipment, including our 25 slicks would not arrive in Vung Tau for another month. In the mean time each of the three platoons were farmed out for in-country orientation. The Second Platoon went to Camp Lane in Qui Nhon and got about two weeks of flying with the 161st. It was the rainy season on the coast and the 161st mostly supported the Korean Tiger Division. Talk about "bad ass!"

After picking up our A/C the DEROS shuffles started. Around July I was shuffled to the 119th (Gators and Crocs) at Camp Holloway in Pleiku. We were scattered to the four winds. The 119th supported the 4th as well as the 173rd AB Brigade when they came north and we did a month at FOB2 (Kontum) in November. The NVA and the VC waited for me to leave Vietnam before they "celebrated" Tet 68.

Three of the band of 16 went to D Troop (FreepMail coming).

I remember Sin City. Never was in the place. Honest. We were told to stop "buzzing" the place. Guys were getting a little crazy putting the skids through main street at 100 knots as they (we) returned from missions.

Oh, here but for the Grace of God, go I. Welcome home, brother!


39 posted on 11/02/2005 2:08:28 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Wow!....Great to hear from ya...Sure stirred some old memories and a sense that we truly were a Band of Brothers...I think I have some pics u might enjoy (Freepmail to follow when I have a little
more time)...Take care and God Bless!
40 posted on 11/02/2005 7:04:28 AM PST by M-cubed
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