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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Spending, for one thing. I don't recall reading him increasing the funding of a tarnished institution like the NEA for another,/i>

??? The NEA is a teacher's union. It is not funded by the USG.

"The National Education Association (NEA) is the nation's largest professional employee organization and is committed to advancing the cause of public education. NEA's 2.7 million members work at every level of education, from pre-school to university graduate programs. NEA has affiliate organizations in every state, as well as in more than 14,000 local communities across the United States."

While arguably more conservative than Bush in many ways, JFK isn't conservative enough either.

Arguably among whom? JFK may seem conservative compared to the Dem party today, but no one would consider him to be a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. He is certainly not more conservative than GWB.

Don't get me wrong. Bush, as things stand now, is the most successful wartime president in US history: liberating more people and land with such comparably low fatalities [even the 'unconquerable' Afghanis]-- that's a major accomplishment. It would take over 40 years to reach Vietnam level fatalities.

Sorry, but Roosevelt and Truman were the most successful wartime Presidents. They liberated hundreds of millions in the largest war in world history. Comparing Iraq and Afghanistan to WWII is like equating a gnat to an elephant.

It would actually take almost 90 years to reach the 58,000 lost in Vietnam. We have lost about 2000 in three years. Projecting the same level of casualties over the same time span, it would take 29 times three or 87 years to reach 58,000.

At the same time, we need to look hard at how the 2000 primary was hyjacked, or the same thing will happen in 2008. But who realizes we were hyjacked?

Hijacked? We won the WH against an incumbent VP during a time of peace and prosperity by the narrowest of magrins. Who else would have beatened Al Gore? Allan Keyes? John McCain?

1,406 posted on 10/31/2005 8:13:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Yep. I've pointed out similar things before. In Vietnam there were 15.9 troops killed per day, vs. 2.1 killed per day in Iraq, as of 2000. And over 800 of those 2,000 were accidents, which happen even when there is no war. Plus, Iraq is three times larger than South Vietnam, we never controlled the north, South Vietnam never had real elections or a constitution, North Vietnam never fell, and on the best day in Vietnam it was never as good as the worst day in Iraq. Commparrisons of the two show a complete and total lack of factual understanding of history, and frankly, anyone that arguss Iraq is like Vietnam is a totally stupid and inept fool. My father served four tours in Vietnam and he's said a few times he'd of much rather been in Iraq and Vietnam. Hands down. Far as I'm concerned, that's all that needs be said. 8)


1,425 posted on 10/31/2005 8:25:40 AM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: kabar

??? The NEA is a teacher's union.

That's bad enough. Just think tax funded art. I've been studying some of the 2005 contributions by the NEA. Not as bad as 'piss christ', but still outrageous.

"Arguably among whom? JFK may seem conservative compared to the Dem party today, but no one would consider him to be a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. He is certainly not more conservative than GWB."

A 60s moderate would be called extreme right wing today.

"Sorry, but Roosevelt and Truman were the most successful wartime Presidents. They liberated hundreds of millions in the largest war in world history. Comparing Iraq and Afghanistan to WWII is like equating a gnat to an elephant."


Wrong again. It's a simple, mathematical equasion. Who took more land with FEWER fatalities than GW Bush? Not one US president. And Afghanistan was called 'unconquerable'.

"Hijacked? We won the WH against an incumbent VP during a time of peace and prosperity by the narrowest of magrins. Who else would have beatened Al Gore? Allan Keyes? John McCain?"

How about someone with the guts to go for the jugular? It was a terrible campaign. Bush almost lost and Gore was extremely vulnerable. All Bush had to do was make daily jokes about Gore draining a dam DURING a drought for a canoe photo-op. Easy work.


1,483 posted on 10/31/2005 8:53:03 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: kabar

I believe the poster meant NEA -- The National Endowment for the Arts.


1,488 posted on 10/31/2005 8:54:37 AM PST by rom
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To: kabar

What's the acronym for "National Endowment For the Arts"?


1,494 posted on 10/31/2005 8:57:17 AM PST by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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