Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Outrage over honor for cop-killer inmate
Star Ledger ^ | 10.29.05 | MIKE FRASSINELLI

Posted on 10/29/2005 10:27:17 PM PDT by Coleus

Cop-killer transsexual Leslie Ann Nelson was honored as an Inmate of the Month during a recent ceremony in which she received a certificate, a hug and a special lunch, infuriating a statewide police organization that represents nearly 30,000 officers.

"The idea that our state would award a vicious and cold-blooded murderer like Leslie Ann Nelson is both outrageous and disgusting," said state Policemen's Benevolent Association President Michael J. Madonna, who yesterday called for the New Jersey Department of Corrections to end the Inmate of the Month award and for the warden at Nelson's prison to step down.

The award also drew the ire of the widow of a state trooper whose death led to sweeping changes in the way police conduct traffic stops.

"As they pat him -- or her-- on the back, they slap the families of who he killed," said Donna Lamonaco of Belvidere, Warren County, whose husband, Phil, was gunned down by fugitives as he made a vehicle stop on Route 80 in Knowlton Township 24 years ago. "It makes me sick, and I am not sitting idle."

Nelson, 48, a transsexual go-go dancer whose name was Glenn Nelson before a sex-change operation at age 34, was convicted of killing Camden County law enforcement officers John McLaughlin and John Norcross during a 1995 standoff in Haddon Heights.

She was removed from death row, but has an upcoming death-penalty trial in which she wants to represent herself. Juries have twice decided she should die, and twice those sentences were overturned by the state Supreme Court.

Nelson is an inmate at Edna Mahan Correctional Facility for Women in Clinton, Hunterdon County, where she works as a paralegal in the law library and teaches other inmates how to read.

Department of Corrections spokesman Matt Schuman said 120 of the inmate

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: correctionofficers; corrections; donutlist; donutwatch; homosexualagenda; leo; mumia; newjersey; nj; prisons; transsexual
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last
To: babygene
And I guess you think that people would go around shooting people. Well, in my RED state, they wouldn't We don't need to be kept "in line". (can't speak for your blue state) Indivials, at least from my observation, are almost always good.

Oh, and you totally seem to be the expert in the human psyche... all I see here is a loose anecdotal hypothesis, what evidence do you have to back this up? Hell, open up today's newspaper and you'll see a Republican criminal *ahem* Libby! Mr RED state himself, and Rove's next in line. And if by RED state you mean CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST state, then consider the child-molesting priests, they totally don't need accountability.

Face it, anarchy would bring utter chaos in even to your hicktown.
41 posted on 10/30/2005 12:43:35 AM PDT by Roots (www.GOPatUCR.com - College Republicans at the University of California, Riverside)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: babygene

That's disgusting.


42 posted on 10/30/2005 12:44:05 AM PDT by Ruth C
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: JoeSixPack1
So, if a guy puts a wig on he gets to go to the woman's prison?

It's more what he takes off.

43 posted on 10/30/2005 12:46:17 AM PDT by Grut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: gondramB

"IT" ...shouldn't have made it to jail in the first place.


44 posted on 10/30/2005 12:49:40 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: babygene
"Sure it wasn't 5 times?"

Yup, only twice. Once I was 17 and worked at a women's clothing store and we were held up and I was the one at our register. The second occasion I was admittedly with someone who wasn't the most upstanding character (although I wouldn't have admitted it then) in a bad section of Providence, RI and when he decided to cause a problem with some yutes, one pulled a gun on me. Pleading for my life on my knees was not something I cared to recollect, but thanks for forcing my hand.

So there you have it - see, I poured my heart out for you!

Anyway, I still do not see your statistics posted. Somehow they seem suspect. How many gun crimes are stopped by people with firearms each year? How many cops use their weapons against law-abiding citizens each year in some manner? The answers will probably suggest that many more criminals victimize the good guys than cops do. But because you made the claim, you can research it.
45 posted on 10/30/2005 12:53:59 AM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use them bootstraps, cowboy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: babygene

"It't not the police's job, according to the USSC, to protect us in any event."

Wrong again. They are not required to protect individuals (clearly they can not be everwhere they might be needed) but they have a duty to protect the society in general (they try to get the bad guys). Otherwise, you could get police protection whenever you desired it. No town/city can cater to the needs of every citizen at every moment.


46 posted on 10/30/2005 12:59:49 AM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use them bootstraps, cowboy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Why is he/she/it still alive. All cop killers should be executed immediately after trial. Sounds like she passed go and is collecting $200..


47 posted on 10/30/2005 1:04:05 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
Cop-killer transsexual Leslie Ann Nelson was honored as an Inmate of the Month during a recent ceremony in which she received a certificate, a hug and a special lunch, infuriating a statewide police organization that represents nearly 30,000 officers.

That's enough I don't think I can read anymore.

48 posted on 10/30/2005 1:04:14 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: babygene
I bet you won't find ones other person on this thread who has has a gun pointed at them by a criminal even once.

You lose.

Armed robbery at work, thirteen years ago. I was the lucky girl who approached the criminal as if he were any other customer and said "May I help you?", so I was the one who got to clean out the cash register with a gun in my face.

Yes, we gals in retail are magnets for that sort of thing.

49 posted on 10/30/2005 1:24:38 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: gondramB
If he murdered a cop he should have been executed.

It's how he was born. It is what his genes still say.

50 posted on 10/30/2005 1:52:35 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: babygene

Well until you can field your own private army to keep thieves, frauds, rapists, and killers at bay, you might cut the kopz a LITTLE slack there.


51 posted on 10/30/2005 2:13:45 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: pepperhead

OK, she was the huggee. Who was the huggor?


52 posted on 10/30/2005 2:17:20 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
It's NJ after all.

Thomas Trantino was sentenced to death for murdering two police officers.

The death penalty was overturned by the USSC.

Trantino's sentence was converted to life.

Trantino was released from prison a few years ago and was working in the lunchroom of a Hunterdon County high school.

Yet the uniformed officers continue to support democrat candidates for Governor.

Evidently a few more dollars thrown their way is more important than the issues of law and order.

53 posted on 10/30/2005 3:48:40 AM PST by OldFriend (Fitzgerald is a Lawrence Walsh wannabe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #54 Removed by Moderator

To: babygene
...cops are just crooks that work for the government.

Generalizations like that earn you nothing. If you can't bring some facts to the table, keep your mouth shut.

55 posted on 10/30/2005 4:13:34 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: babygene
No it does not; Simply because there are more innocents killed by cops than cops killed criminals. The fact is that you are more likely, as a law abiding citizen to have a loaded gun pointed at you by a police officer than by a criminal. Think about it...

Please explain your sources for these assertions. I understand your logic on this, but I think your source of information is bad.

I looked into this once and came up with a ratio of about two cops killed by criminals for each innocent person killed by cops.

I believe that your assertion that a person is far more likely to have a cop point a gun at them than a criminal is wrong as well. It might be correct in certain jurisdictions, or for certain groups, but overall... I don't see any evidence to support that contention.

56 posted on 10/30/2005 4:18:21 AM PST by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: ZULU

"
This freak should most certainly not be rewarded for behaving well in prison. Such behavior should be an expectation, and the prison authorities should have the power to impose it by any means necessary"

Hopefully this particular individual will finally be successfully sentenced to death in his third trial.

But stepping back from him as an individual, there are three good reason for a reward based system in prisons.

1. It makes the prison safer - safer for the guards, safer for the weaker inmates - this lowers heath care costs and insurance cost and makes it easier to retain good guards. Without this increased safety you have to go to a supermax type environment that is VERY expensive.

2. Many of these people get out of prison, most people are in prison for drugs or non-capital crimes. A reward system is an opportunity to influence their behavior beyond simple forced obedience through fear.

3. Some of them will never get out. That makes small rewards critical to their behavior. Not only does effect safety as above, but these types interact with those prisoners who will get out and indirectly they still effect society.


57 posted on 10/30/2005 7:41:50 AM PST by gondramB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: babygene

"I don't believe you. Two times huh? Where the H3LL do you live, and who do you hang out with? You must be a magnet for at temped murders...
I bet you won't find ones other person on this thread who has has a gun pointed at them by a criminal even once. Sure it wasn't 5 times?"

I've had a gun in my face once. I was doing onsite computer network maintenance and finished up late at night in an industrial area and stopped at a pay phone (20 years ago before I had a cell phone).

I'm lucky it never happened again but if it happened once to me it could happen twice.


58 posted on 10/30/2005 7:45:38 AM PST by gondramB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: marktwain
"I looked into this once and came up with a ratio of about two cops killed by criminals for each innocent person killed by cops."

Even if your numbers are right, you have to admit that that's pretty bad. Especially since one at least stands a chance of defending one's self against a criminal.You can't against a cop. You can also at least avoid criminals (for the most part).

"I believe that your assertion that a person is far more likely to have a cop point a gun at them than a criminal is wrong as well. It might be correct in certain jurisdictions, or for certain groups, but overall... I don't see any evidence to support that contention."

Of all of the acquaintances I have had in my long lifetime,I have known of 6 or 7 that have had guns pointed at them by police (all traffic stops, except for one). ZERO by a criminals.
59 posted on 10/30/2005 7:48:04 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: JMack

In post 57 I talked about this - basically the answer isn't "to be nice to the inmates" but rather because it benefits society in various ways.


60 posted on 10/30/2005 7:48:26 AM PST by gondramB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson