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Public has had it with both parties (Battleground poll)
Worldnetdaily ^ | October 28, 2005 | WND

Posted on 10/28/2005 3:53:51 PM PDT by ovrtaxt

Public has had it
with both parties

Battleground poll reveals Americans disillusioned with government


Posted: October 28, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A just-released political survey by George Washington University contains bad news for Democrats and Republicans because it lays bare a public seemingly disenfranchised with both major parties.

The Battleground poll – unique for its inclusion of top Democrat and Republican pollsters – shows a definite slide in support for President Bush and the GOP. But the survey contains little good news for Democrats as a viable alternative.

The poll found just 44 percent of the public is satisfied with President Bush's job performance – a figure well below his two-term average but still slightly higher than other recent polls showing his approval at all-time lows.

"The mounting casualties of American troops in Iraq, the higher gas prices certainly put a dampening on any of the good news about the economy, and you had the surfacing scandals with Republicans in the House, the Senate and the White House, potential scandals," said GOP pollster Ed Goeas.

While a Republican retreat in the polls normally means good news for Democrats, there is little evidence Americans are enamored with the opposition party, survey results indicate. On a host of issues – Iraq, homeland security, the economy – Democrats don't fare much better, the poll indicated.

"There is a real void right now in terms of what the alternative is. And right now, Democrats suffer from the fact that Americans are disillusioned and distrustful of government in general," Democratic pollster Celinda Lake told Voice Of America. "They tend to be feeling more negative about the Republicans, but not particularly positive about the Democrats."

Goeas believes Democrats' inability to capitalize on Republican weakness is actually encouraging.

"But the Democrats, whether you look at the image of the Democratic Party, whether you look at Democrats in Congress, not only did not gain anything, they actually had their negatives go up some during this period of time," he told VOA.

And, the survey noted, Republicans continue to hold an edge in the public's eye on issues related to taxes and terrorism. Democrats, meanwhile, fare better with health care, jobs and education.

The mid-October poll surveyed 1,000 registered likely voters nationwide. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: marty60

Which stunt? The poll itself?


201 posted on 10/29/2005 4:48:34 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: Eaker

I would wear a $1000 suit if there was a chance of the sleeves being blown off either. :)

You got my vote Tom... us Neuvo Mexicanos are experts at casting many ballots where we shouldn't!


202 posted on 10/29/2005 6:24:46 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Yes it is a known fact that after somesort of scandal comes out of D.C. you automatically get these types of results.


203 posted on 10/29/2005 6:53:39 AM PDT by marty60
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To: jla; ovrtaxt

Do you mean Rudy??? Seriously, I believe we could be headed for trouble in 06,not 94 -like trouble, but trouble nonetheless, I believe we conservatives must elevate the next great conservative leader in order for our majority to survive and our movement to flourish.There will be several GOOD men in the President Bush mold who maybe next in line for "leader" of the Republican party,But for all his goodness and good intentions, President Bush has acted at times to much like his father(and LBJ) and not enough like Ronald Reagan. It may come to the fact that another conservative in the Bush mold will be the Next Nominee,but at this point I am holding out for another Reagan even if Pence has to "skip" ahead to the front of the line.We know that conservatism wins and all else is,to paraphrase Pence the Road to Serfdom. We must articulate to fellow conservatives,in a more friendly and cordial way than I have been able to do, The need for real conservatism and an ideological commitment to limited Government.I believe Pence is that leader,and that he will emerge in the next couple years as the Reagan heir and the leader of the Republican Party.


204 posted on 10/29/2005 7:20:58 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

Pence is really good. Lots of other guys in the House too- Weldon, Tancredo, Flake, even the persona non grata, Ron Paul. Even though they're not necessarily running, they are symbolic of conservatism and GOP shortcomings on different levels.

Things are going to get veeeeery interesting next year!


205 posted on 10/29/2005 7:26:42 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Thanks Slim!!

LOL!!


206 posted on 10/29/2005 7:30:31 AM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix off of my ping list as I have been asked to do.)
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To: Sam Cree
...but a citizenry without moral moorings will fail too. Unfortunately, the moral moorings must be voluntary in a free country.

I know.

I'm not even sure if we ever were morally moored. In the 50s, when it was safe to walk the streets at night, we drafted Black men, but refused them the vote. Our redemption has always lied in how much we were willing to expend to correct our errors, and how much we were willing to expend (our blood, that is) on behalf of others in jeapordy.

The Founding Fathers were such intellectual giants that the Bill of Rights ended up being a self-rebuke to them, as regards slavery, and provided the context and impetus to throw off that scourge. I think we're living in a precarious historical moment, and we need intellectual giants.

Don't get me wrong, I think the USofA stands as the greatest Human experiment ever. I'm just hoping the next President sees the domestic front with more clarity and passion.

Maybe the bleakness that I sense has more to do with me getting older than much of anything else. I wouldn't be sad to find my own moorings off a bit.

207 posted on 10/29/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: ovrtaxt
I suspect the public is catching on to the hegelian dialectic of having to choose between only two parties which on the surface appear to represent different philosophies, but end up moving towards the same ends no matter which is put into power.
One of the early writings of the Founders spoke to this ( aside from Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence ). Such a disconnect can be ignored only for so long.
208 posted on 10/29/2005 7:37:37 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: thoughtomator; Dead Corpse

interesting thoughts. Another method is to try to elect Libertarian type candidates into the Republican party.

The organiztion that does an excellent job of this is the Club For Growth.


209 posted on 10/29/2005 7:53:14 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: Black Tooth

Bookmark


210 posted on 10/29/2005 7:57:00 AM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: conservative blonde

Actually what we need are part-time politicians. If all of them only worked at government part-time then had to go back home to a REAL job we would have totally different legislation. And their pay for public service should be low with few benefits. Let em get by on a real job like real people.


211 posted on 10/29/2005 2:28:53 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

I like that "low benefits." I get sick when I see how much these guys get as retirement benefits. It is really disgusting.


212 posted on 10/29/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: sheana

Not to mention the fact that seniority matters a lot and people are going to continue to vote for their high-seniority Senators and Reps (they get high positions on committees and bring home the pork)--and the opposition party doesn't even bother to put up a candidate, or a good one; at least that's the case here in Mass.

Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barney Frank, Marty Meehan,
et al. Same old story, same old song and dance my friends.


213 posted on 10/30/2005 3:29:42 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: sheana

>>part-time politicians. If all of them only worked at government part-time then had to go back home to a REAL job

For many politicians on the national (Sen., Reps.) and local (state sens. and reps.) level
from Mass., politics is the only "job" they've ever had.
Most don't know about life in the "Dreaded private
sector", as Howie Carr calls it.


214 posted on 10/30/2005 3:31:14 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: ovrtaxt
Yep – I’m tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I’d like to actually vote for a candidate instead of voting against a candidate.
215 posted on 10/30/2005 3:34:39 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: sinkspur
But fewer people vote for third parties than ever before, and the presidential election in 2004 had the highest turnout, ever.

So, go figure.


One reason may have been that so much was at stake. We had a major party candidate that openly admitted committing sedation, who was proven to be a self aggrandizing liar (even more so than most politicians), may have committed treason (seems he did, but not proven), and was proud to be a back stabber.
For some unknown reason he appealed to a lot of people – but fortunately for the USA, not enough.
216 posted on 10/30/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: TCats
I just don't know how the Reps can dump on their base in a continuous fashion (i.e., Spending, Immigration, Miers, Medicare, etc., etc.) and ever expect to remain in power - Which from their performances while in command of Congress and the Presidency over the past five years might not make much of a difference if they were thrown out.

Because they have faith that people like me are more sickened by the democrats?
217 posted on 10/30/2005 3:43:46 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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