Posted on 10/28/2005 5:54:55 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher
In just a few days, I'm to debate at the University Philosophical Society of Trinity College, Dublin.
Trinity was founded in 1592. The Philosophical Society better known as the Phil -- is of more recent vintage: It traces its lineage back to the 17th century.
Those who have preceded me at this forum include Alexis de Tocqueville and Bertrand Russell. Then again, in recent years the smarmy fanatic George Galloway, the Holocaust denier David Irving and the porn star Ron Jeremy also have been guests.
The resolution I'll be debating: This house believes that George W. Bush is a danger to world stability. The members of the Phil presumably came to me because they could find no one in Europe willing to publicly dispute this widely accepted notion.
And, upon reflection, I'm not sure I will either. Perhaps President Bush does endanger stability. But is stability really the goal that free peoples should pursue?
The world has not experienced much stability in recent times. Just ask the Yugoslavs or the Soviets or the Ottomans or the Austro-Hungarians. The 20th century was a period of bloody struggles as aggressive totalitarian movements Fascism, Nazism, Japanese Militarism and Communism sought to terminate the democratic experiment.
There were then, as there are now, many who opposed such conflicts and urged preemptive capitulation. Recall that on February 9th, 1933, the Oxford Union approved the resolution that this House refuses in any circumstances to fight for King and Country."
Hitler must have been encouraged to hear that. Just a few months later he would begin burning books in Berlin. With the notable exception of Winston Churchill, most Europeans were less outraged than intimidated they were unwilling to endanger the stability that followed the first global war. The result: Within a decade most of the continent was under Hitler's jackboot.
To outsiders, the Middle East may have appeared stable before George W. Bush came to office. In fact, it has long been a region where people are deprived of basic human rights, and where vast oil wealth is enjoyed by ruling classes while masses endure grinding poverty.
To preserve the mirage of Middle Eastern stability has meant permitting Syria to occupy Lebanon and letting extremist mullahs stealthily develop nuclear weapons.
A book just published in France, Le Livre Noir de Saddam Hussein, (The Black Book of Saddam Hussein) concludes that what passed for stability in Iraq cloaked the taking of a million lives and the creation of more than 4 million refugees.
For decades, and as long as the oil flowed, it has been convenient to turn a blind eye when Muslims massacre Muslims (e.g. the Anfal campaign, 180,000 Kurds murdered) or Arabs slaughter Arabs (e.g. Hama, more than 20,000 Syrians murdered), to ignore the spread of aggressive totalitarian ideologies throughout the Middle East and beyond -- into Africa and Asia and corners of Europe.
Even when terrorists struck we responded fecklessly. How that must have encouraged them.
Conflicts are sometimes inevitable delay only ensures they will be more painful when they erupt. World War II would not have been so costly indeed, might never have occurred -- had Hitler been challenged in 1933 or soon after.
In retrospect, was it a wise decision to leave Saddam in power in 1992 after he attempted to wipe an entire nation off the map? And if, instead of toppling Saddam in 2003, we had postponed the conflict, would the result have been increased stability or something like what occurred as a consequence of avoiding a showdown with Osama bin Laden during the 1990s when we knew full well he was training thousands of terrorists to come after us?
For decades, the desire for stability has led us to support not Arabs and Muslims who advocate freedom and democracy -- but their oppressors. That led many in the Middle East to conclude with some justification -- that they had nowhere to turn except to the Islamic Fascists.
So perhaps the resolution the Phil should be debating is not whether President Bush endangers stability, but whether fear of change could be the greatest danger of all.
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Stability? Stability is just another word for stagnation.........
There will only be world stability when the rogue muslim countries like Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia are smoking ruins.
Switzerland has had over 500 years of "peace and stability" and their greatest achievement has been the cuckoo clock..........
That would be called, continuity of the status quo........
It seems that whole world is blind to the natural and logically follow on to that list of killer movements...
Islam.
When will someone or some forum debate that?
Militant Islam is just the latest Face of War. For countless millenia, armies have swarmed across the desert sands of the "Middle East" from all directions spreading their cause or empire's borders. Subjugation, death and destruction have been the norm, not the exception. Egyptians, Syrians, Chaldeans, Medes, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Islam's First wave, Crusaders, Ottomans, British and Nazi. They are all the same. The way of life in that region is death. There will come a time of peace, but only when Jesus' foot touches the Mount of Olives again........
Germany invented the Cuckoo clock, Orson Wells not withstanding.
That's what has been on my mine lately. The massive, worldwide threat of Islam on one hand and the complete absense of leadership in the world to oppose it creates a leadership vacuum that is so large it can no longer be filled by mortals.
Then why are there so many cuckoos in Swissyland?.......
"Switzerland has had over 500 years of "peace and stability" and their greatest achievement has been the cuckoo clock.........."
Not true on so many levels. They have the better system of government, if you're comparing the Federation to the U.S.--their's is still a federal republic. And they invented a really cool knife, you might have seen `em. 8)
But it's a catchy quote anyway.
I have one in my pocket and a Swiss souvenir keyfob I picked up while I was there.............
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"I have one in my pocket and a Swiss souvenir keyfob I picked up while I was there............."
Careful you don't get on a plane with that. I'm still boiling mad about that. I used to carry that knife everywhere I flew, now I'm afraid to pack it because the !@#!@$ luggage handlers are such weasels they'll see it and steal it.
Handiest damn thing I've ever had. Screw driver, bottle opener, nail file, tweezers, toothpick, and it's a knife, too!..........
Frankfurt Airport took mine!
MOTHER!@#$@!$@!
I can't imagine how pissed I'd be if I'd lost mine. I bought it in Zurich in '86 after saving up for weeks to buy the biggest of the Swiss dogs. It's part of a belt pack kit that came with a mini-compass, ruler, mag-lite, extra toothpicks and tweezers, and a bunch of other stuff in the case, all about 3x4"xSwissChamp+1/2 in. wide
Accidentally left it in a hotel once. I spent more than a new one would have cost to drive back and get it. Sentimental fool, am I, I suppose. But I would hate to lose that wonderful little tool.
I bought a Leatherman thinking it'd give me some tools the SwissChamp didn't have...its lock lever rivet broke in two months.
So I'm thinking about getting a SwissTool to go with the knife. Victorinox makes impressive stuff. I might settle for a Gerber instead, but it'll be a tough decision.
How many people do you know that actually got a Swiss Knife FROM SWITZERLAND???.........
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