Case Presented to Leak Grand Jury

The Washington Post ^ | 10/27/05 | Carol D. Leonnig and Jim VandeHei

[Kay]

Thanks for your sanity and knowledge! I know nothing about grand juries.

[nopardons]

Exactly!

But if that idiot, Joe, "I'm a diplomat and this is my wife, the spy, Wilson really does sue, he will lose and the for real facts of the matter will come out. To wit, Plame/Flame wasn't a covert spy, she outed herself to Joe, who outed her many times over, and there was NEVER Any crime committed, except by the Wilsons and the rogue CIA crew, who were/are out to get this president.

[kcvl]

Let Them Eat Yellowcake

Posted 10/26/2005

Politics: In an analysis of Joe Wilson's credibility, The Washington Post claims his charge that President Bush lied about Iraq seeking uranium in Niger "has been validated." It hasn't — and Bush never said that.

There it was, on Page A3 of Tuesday's edition, an analysis by Post staff writers Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus, claiming: "Wilson's central assertion — disputing President Bush's 2003 State of the Union claim that Iraq was seeking nuclear material in Niger — has been validated by postwar inspections."

What Bush actually said was: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Africa, not Niger. The "claim" was not made by Bush, but by British intelligence, and Bush said Hussein had only sought yellowcake, not that he had succeeded.

Both a bipartisan report of the U.S. Senate Committee on Intelligence and a British investigation of prewar intelligence have confirmed that when Bush uttered those famous 16 words in a 5,400-word State of the Union, his statement was "well-founded" based on intelligence that was then, and is now, credible.

Not only that, but it is former Ambassador Wilson, whose statements have been cited as "proof" Bush lied us into war, who has been found to have contradicted himself and possibly given false testimony to Congress. In an addendum to the report, Sen. Pat Roberts and two other Republicans said Wilson provided "inaccurate, unsubstantiated and misleading" information.


More here...


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[nopardons]

Chrissy Matthews is insane!

[kcvl]

The grand jury deliberations Wednesday followed a flurry of recent witness interviews by Fitzgerald's team, including the deployment of FBI agents Monday to the Washington neighborhood where Wilson and his wife live. Neighbors said Tuesday that the agents wanted to determine whether they had known that Plame worked for the CIA before her identity was revealed two years ago in an article by syndicated columnist Robert Novak. Those interviewed said they were unaware of her CIA connection.

Fitzgerald would have to show that Plame's covert status was not publicly known before he could bring charges under a federal law that makes it a felony to identify a CIA operative.

Fitzgerald's lead FBI investigator was among those accompanying the prosecutor into the grand jury room at the federal courthouse Wednesday.

[Howlin]

Here is the Pat Roberts' report:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:o2gDJZU-bRIJ:roberts.senate.gov/07-09a-2004.htm+senator+pat+roberts+Joseph+Wilson&hl=en

[Howlin]

But if that idiot, Joe, "I'm a diplomat and this is my wife, the spy, Wilson really does sue, he will lose and the for real facts of the matter will come out.

Exactly. In fact, I'm looking forward to it!

Let's put them all under oath and see who lies first.

My money is on those trashy Wilsons. Nick and Nora they ain't!

[Howlin]

Can you tell I've about had enough? :-)

[kcvl]

VALERIE WILSON'S NEIGHBORS [Byron York]

One of the key questions about the CIA leak investigation has been: Just how covert was Valerie Wilson? At various points in the probe, there have been reports that a number of people -- friends, neighbors -- knew that Wilson worked for the CIA. And one of the mini-scoops of this week's coverage was the report that on Monday evening, prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's investigators went to Mrs. Wilson's neighborhood and asked her neighbors whether they knew that she worked for the CIA.

The assumption among many investigation-watchers was that Fitzgerald's agents must have been re-interviewing the neighbors. Surely, they had gone over that ground before, because if it were true that Wilson's neighbors knew about her employment, then it could not have been the kind of secret that would be at the heart of such a major investigation.

But I met two of those neighbors, David Tillotson and Marc Lefkowitz, this evening, and they both said that the visit they got from investigators on Monday was the first time they had ever been contacted by anyone from the Fitzgerald investigation. Both men seemed surprised that it had taken Fitzgerald so long to come calling; they reasoned, like everyone else, that if they had known Wilson's secret, then others probably would have, too. But Fitzgerald had never asked, until Monday.

The bottom line, however, is that both men said they did not know that Mrs. Wilson worked for the CIA. They said they were friends with the Wilsons, but did not have a clue about her true employment. So they had no information to rock the Fitzgerald investigation -- but they wondered why the prosecutor didn't get to them sooner.

[Howlin]

Matthews proceeded to assert that her neighbors had “no idea” of what job she held “until quote, 'high administration officials,' closed quote, exposed her to America's enemies.”

Two words, Chrissy: Aldrich Ames.

[Kay]

You sound like you know the business. I'm grateful for you insights.

Do you think it is possible that we have a liberal spy in the White House who was working against the administration by leaking stuff? Is that too far fetched?

[Howlin]

The bottom line, however

No, Byron, the bottom line is that if Patrick Fitzgerald is still trying to find out if she was undercover, his investigation sucks.

The CIA could have told him that in about sixty seconds.

Two years ago.

BTW, I just heard Jonathan Turley on some show say that Fitzgerald is "famous" for setting "perjury traps" by calling people into the Grand Jury and asking them loaded questions.

[Howlin]

It might not have been a liberal.

[nopardons]

Count me in all of that! :-)

[Kay]

OK. What kind?

Also, is it good or bad that Fitzgerald sets perjury traps? Would this help us or hinder us.? Seems to me if I am telling the truth that I could not fall into a perjury trap. Is that naive?

[nopardons]

Two years, TWO WHOLE YEARS this man has been working this case and he waits until the eleventh hour to talk to her neighbors, but not to Andrea Mitchell, et al who have known for YEARS that Valerie not only worked for the CIA, but was NOT a "covert agent"?

Either Fitz is a complete moron, the entire MSM is, or they all are.

He should have been reading FR; we had this case solved long ago and with FACTS...not hearsay and supposition!

[nopardons]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!

[cardinal4]

I have to admit, Im impressed with the way the writer was able to paint such a negative picture without offering any content. Damn, I wish this thing would hurry up and end..

[nopardons]

Very naive.

[Kay]

Thanks. As I said, it is beyond my realm of understanding. Makes me sad if justice is not served.