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Open Letter to Dr. James Dobson (Re: Miers Nomination)
Self ^ | 10/26/05 | SerpentDove

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:01:19 PM PDT by SerpentDove

I just sent this to Dr. Dobson on the Focus on the Family website.

It is a reasonable question which I believe deserves a reasonable answer.

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Dear Dr. Dobson,

I believe that you are an honorable man of God. Recently you came out in favor of the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

It has come to the attention of many that she said the following things in a 1993 speech:

"The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortions or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual women’s right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion."

"The law and religion make for [an] interesting mixture but the mixture tends to evoke the strongest of emotions. The underlying theme in most of these cases is the insistence of more self-determination. And the more I think about these issues, the more self-determination makes the most sense. Legislating religion or morality we gave up on a long time ago."

... Where science determines the facts, the law can effectively govern. However, when science cannot determine the facts and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act."

In light of these statements, do you still support the nomination? Do you feel you owe to your listeners your thoughts on these comments?

Sincerely,

*****


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dobson; miers; scotus
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1 posted on 10/26/2005 7:01:19 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: SerpentDove

Science clearly proves that the combination of DNA residing within a fetus is not that of the mother or father, and therefore a human life.


2 posted on 10/26/2005 7:06:07 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55
Science clearly proves that the combination of DNA residing within a fetus is not that of the mother or father, and therefore a human life.

And is in fact a genetically unique individual. Never been before, will never be again.

3 posted on 10/26/2005 7:11:26 PM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: Paloma_55

"Science clearly proves that the combination of DNA residing within a fetus is not that of the mother or father, and therefore a human life."

Huh? On the basis of our exchange on another Miers thread, I had the distinct impression that you were in favor of her nomination.

That was a quick change of heart.


4 posted on 10/26/2005 7:12:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: SerpentDove

I am now against this nomination. I had, at first, been on the fence, adopting the "wait and see" attitude. But if this remarks from her about abortion are authentic (and there is no indication they are not) then it blows the biggest argument for her (an apparant pro-life stance) right of the water. How can we risk this appointment on any less then a sure conservative, let alone someone whose almost beginning to look liberal? I hope Dobson and Jay Sekulow both rescind their early support for her. I her nomination is withdrawn--if it is, the damage it will do to the administration can't possibly be worse than what it has already done to them or to the morale of conservatives. And it can't possibly be worse than having a female Souter or Kennedy on the bench.


5 posted on 10/26/2005 7:13:26 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: RegulatorCountry

----- Huh? On the basis of our exchange on another Miers thread, I had the distinct impression that you were in favor of her nomination.

That was a quick change of heart. -----

You are probably misreading my position here, along with hers.

Her statement, if taken literally, means that if science can determine that it is a unique life (it is) then it is protected.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 7:17:41 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55

"You are probably misreading my position here, along with hers."

No, I don't think so. This little bit of pro-abortion boilerplate ...

"Legislating religion or morality we gave up on a long time ago"

... which preceded Miers' murky statement regarding science, religion and the appropriateness of not acting under the law, makes her position rather less than stellar, from a pro-life point of view.


7 posted on 10/26/2005 7:22:09 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: marsh_of_mists

Dobson and Sekulow are not going to change their minds, and neither is Bush. Miers is pro-life regardless of how you read this.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 7:22:21 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: marsh_of_mists

>>[ Damage to the administration ] can't possibly be worse than having a female Souter or Kennedy on the bench.<<

Exactly.


9 posted on 10/26/2005 7:23:00 PM PDT by SerpentDove (If Miers is pro-life, why are Harry Reid, Ellen Goodman and Susan Estrich supporting her?)
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To: SerpentDove

Bravo! Bravo! I think, like many of us, Dr. Dobson was duped. I was leaning toward Harriet up until today but after reading articles such as this, uh uh; no, no, no, a thousand times NO!!!!!

Please let us know if you get a response.


10 posted on 10/26/2005 7:26:13 PM PDT by no dems (Go ASTROS!! For the first time ever, a World Series played in Texas,)
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To: GarySpFc

Probably not. What a sad waste of time this nomination has been. So many superior candidates were left behind.


11 posted on 10/26/2005 7:27:11 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: GarySpFc

"Dobson and Sekulow are not going to change their minds..."

How do you know?


12 posted on 10/26/2005 7:27:21 PM PDT by no dems (Go ASTROS!! For the first time ever, a World Series played in Texas,)
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To: Paloma_55

However her words may be technically interpreted, they mirror the rhetoric of the pro-choice movement (particular the first quotation about "the freedom of the individual woman's...) Anyway, the problem isn't that she's certainly not conservative, the problem is that she MAY not be conservative, and we can't risk a maybe on this.


13 posted on 10/26/2005 7:28:00 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What a sad waste of time this nomination has been. So many superior candidates were left behind.

Succinct summation of multi-thousands of posts.

14 posted on 10/26/2005 7:33:27 PM PDT by quantim (I just reek of the antithesis of liberalism. They smell me and scatter like rats.)
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To: marsh_of_mists
I have to concur.

The pro-life reasoning was the only shred giving Miers some credence within the greater Conservative community. But in light of these remarks, how can a Conservative be sure that we won't end up with Souter II?

I don't mean any disrespect, but I have my doubts on her, and they are quite serious...

15 posted on 10/26/2005 7:35:38 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Liberalism: The world's singular leading cause of truth decay...)
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To: no dems

www.focusonthefamily.org


16 posted on 10/26/2005 7:39:03 PM PDT by SerpentDove (If Miers is pro-life, why are Harry Reid, Ellen Goodman and Susan Estrich supporting her?)
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To: no dems
Contact Dr. Dobson HERE.
17 posted on 10/26/2005 7:41:44 PM PDT by SerpentDove (If Miers is pro-life, why are Harry Reid, Ellen Goodman and Susan Estrich supporting her?)
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To: SerpentDove
Would you please ping me if you get an answer? I'd like to ask Dobson a few questions myself.

I hated this speech when I first read about it last night and hate it even more after going back and reading Justice Hecht's reported comments a day or so after she was first announced as the nominee:

Hecht said he had never asked Miers how she would vote on the issue of abortion if it came before the Supreme Court. "She probably wouldn't answer; she wouldn't view it as appropriate," he said.

"Yes, she goes to a pro-life church," Hecht said, adding: "I know Harriet is, too." The two attended "two or three" anti-abortion fund-raising dinners in the early 1990s, he said, but added that she had not otherwise been active in the anti-abortion movement.

"You can be just as pro-life as the day is long and can decide the Constitution requires Roe" to be upheld, he said, referring to the 1973 Supreme Court decision in Roe vs. Wade that found a constitutional right to abortion.

18 posted on 10/26/2005 7:44:51 PM PDT by Kryptonite (McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine, Chafee - put them in your sights)
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To: Kryptonite

>>Would you please ping me if you get an answer? I'd like to ask Dobson a few questions myself. <<

I will TRY to remember to...but please don't get mad if I forget...I'm stretched pretty thin these days so I might forget.

:-))

If you go to post #17, I have provided a link so you can email Dr. Dobson, if you'd like.


19 posted on 10/26/2005 7:47:31 PM PDT by SerpentDove (If Miers is pro-life, why are Harry Reid, Ellen Goodman and Susan Estrich supporting her?)
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To: SerpentDove

Thanks. I sent my e-mail to Dr. Dobson. I hope everyone who reads this thread will go to your comment #17 and click on the direct link to Dr. Dobson's e-mail.

The Miers nomination has got to be stopped.


20 posted on 10/26/2005 7:51:23 PM PDT by no dems (Go ASTROS!! For the first time ever, a World Series played in Texas,)
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