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STILLWELL: Conservatives Give Bush An Earful
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/26/5 | Cinnamon Stillwell

Posted on 10/26/2005 11:20:44 AM PDT by SmithL

Leftist Bush-bashing is certainly nothing new, but recently the president has been getting an earful from his right flank as well. For some time now, a lively debate has been raging among conservatives over a variety of Bush administration policies and decisions.

For conservatives, criticism of the Bush administration centers not so much on style than on substance. Unlike the left's scattershot attacks, the president's appearance, past habits or religious beliefs are unlikely to figure in the equation. Disagreement exists over the war in Iraq, but conservatives are largely united in the belief that the war on terrorism is the preeminent struggle of our lifetime. Instead, contentiousness tends to center on domestic and security issues on which the administration seems inconsistent.

Probably the largest of these issues is illegal immigration. It's difficult to imagine how the Bush administration can hope to pursue "homeland security" without securing the homeland. The border with Mexico is the elephant in the room that renders almost all discussion of true security insincere. This is a concern that crosses party lines, with a majority of Americans supporting tighter restrictions on both illegal and legal immigration.

When Democratic governors Bill Richardson of New Mexico and Janet Napolitano of Arizona declared a state of emergency in August over the skyrocketing costs associated with illegal immigration, it was proof that such issues are not limited to conservatives. Yet both governors continue to support such policies as giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses and in-state tuition at colleges, somehow not seeing the connection between rewarding illegal immigration and furthering it. Similarly, Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton has been known to talk tough on the subject, but when pressed, she continues to pander to the illegal immigration lobby.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cinnamonstillwell; seenthelight
There isn't a politician on the planet that I always agree with, including this one.
1 posted on 10/26/2005 11:20:45 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

You don't always agree with Cinnamon Stillwell?


2 posted on 10/26/2005 11:23:04 AM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: Cool Guy; CounterCounterCulture; Arkat Kingtroll; bayareablues; pbear8; Jerez2; SunStar; ...
Cinnamon Ping!

If you want on, or off, this low-volume ping list let me know via FReepMail.

3 posted on 10/26/2005 11:23:30 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: Chunga

No, but I always enjoy her stuff.


4 posted on 10/26/2005 11:24:10 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: SmithL

My biggest quarrel with Bush is spending including the prescription drug benefit. If he can curb that I'll be happier than a wolf at a barbeque.


5 posted on 10/26/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: SmithL

"Cinnamon Girl"

I wanna live
with a cinnamon girl
I could be happy
the rest of my life
With a cinnamon girl.

A dreamer of pictures
I run in the night
You see us together,
chasing the moonlight,
My cinnamon girl.

Ten silver saxes,
a bass with a bow
The drummer relaxes
and waits between shows
For his cinnamon girl.

A dreamer of pictures
I run in the night
You see us together,
chasing the moonlight,
My cinnamon girl.

Pa sent me money now
I'm gonna make it somehow
I need another chance
You see your baby loves to dance
Yeah...yeah...yeah.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 11:28:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: Brad Cloven
AAACCCKKK! Spoke too soon....


7 posted on 10/26/2005 11:32:32 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: Brad Cloven

I like the lyrics, but I can't stand anything whined by Neil Young.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 11:33:01 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: SmithL; SeenTheLight
The border with Mexico is the elephant in the room that renders almost all discussion of true security insincere. This is a concern that crosses party lines, with a majority of Americans supporting tighter restrictions on both illegal and legal immigration.

I believe that the candidate's position on illegal immigration will be a leading indicator of who will win the presidency in '08. Whichever candidate appears tougher on illegal immigration will win. They won't win on that issue alone, but it will be a leading indicator.

9 posted on 10/26/2005 11:33:01 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Easy, there. Cinnamon's cool, and she's a FReeper.


10 posted on 10/26/2005 11:33:34 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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To: SmithL

She really nails it.


11 posted on 10/26/2005 11:33:37 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: SmithL
I like the lyrics, but I can't stand anything whined by Neil Young.

Funny... I say the same thing about Bob Dylan. I love his music, as long as someone else performs it.

12 posted on 10/26/2005 11:35:00 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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To: SmithL
"conservatives are largely united in the belief that the war on terrorism is the preeminent struggle of our lifetime."

Not quite. The preeminent struggle of our lifetime is with China. Some distinction has to be made on the 'war on terrorism'. The war on terrorism [whatever that is] is against al Qaeda. The war in Iraq is a civil war in which we have taken sides and we lose whichever side wins. Better to let them kill each other.

13 posted on 10/26/2005 11:42:24 AM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: SmithL
While Democrats may be applauding discord within the Republican Party, they might want to forgo the celebrations. None of this means that Republicans will turn leftward, but rather that those registering independent or "decline to state" are likely to grow. Either that or some truly conservative Republicans will have to rise to the occasion.






If the discord results in the GOP refocusing its message, the Dems will have to remind themselves to "be careful what you wish for".
14 posted on 10/26/2005 12:37:58 PM PDT by rob777
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To: SmithL
For conservatives, criticism of the Bush administration centers not so much on style than on substance. Unlike the left's scattershot attacks...

Sorry Cinnamon but the far-right Conservatives sound EXACTLY like the left's scattershot attacks. Some on this Web site have called Ms. Miers old, ugly, stupid, unqualified, etc. to name a few -- EXACTLY the same tactics that the left uses.

15 posted on 10/26/2005 12:56:58 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: loreldan

That prescription debacle is the worst thing after McCain Feingold.


16 posted on 10/26/2005 12:58:58 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SmithL

It's only an earful if he listens.


17 posted on 10/26/2005 1:55:41 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Free Republic = the people's think tank.)
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To: BushisTheMan

Using "far-right Conservatives" as a slur? THAT sounds like a left wing attack.


18 posted on 10/26/2005 1:56:13 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom

not a slur, just a notation.


19 posted on 10/26/2005 2:01:56 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: ex-snook
Better to let them kill each other.

Trouble is, they are not content to just kill each other.

20 posted on 10/26/2005 2:20:14 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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