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Utah Peacenicks organize "vigil" for 2000th death (Freep Oportunity)
UtahPeace.org ^ | 26 October 2005 | People for Peace and Justice

Posted on 10/26/2005 8:11:26 AM PDT by batter

Memorial Sidewalk Vigil for 2,000th Fallen Soldier in Iraq

Wednesday, October 25, 2005: 5pm to 10pm

***See important message about tonight's vigil below the vigil logisitcs.***

Join us as we gather in memoriam in the event that it is reported that 2,000 soldiers have died in Iraq.

Gather on the sidewalk in front of the Federal Building in Salt Lake,
125 South State Street
TODAY, Wednesday, October 26, 2005, 5pm to 10pm

Info: 502-8556 or Memorial Vigil

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Today's Utah papers have articles about the 2000th soldier death in Iraq - links are below.

A correction has been sent to the reporters of the D-News. Utah Rally for Peace has not organized tonight's rally. People for Peace and Justice of Utah has been organizing the rally for tonight since the September 24th event - long before the national organizations put out the call.

Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune Article
Deseret News

About tonight's vigil:

There are indications that pro-war people will turn out to confront people who are coming to vigil. One national conservative radio talk show host last night billed Salt Lake's vigil as anti-american, unpatriotic, and that vigilers would be telling the public that our soldiers "threw their lives away". Of course, we know this is false.

If "anti-protestors" show up, please do not engage in confrontational conversation with them. That is what they want. The advice is to respond neutrally to any questions you may be asked but to not respond to violent remarks or questions. The tactics of shouting, name calling, in-your-face interrupting comments should not be tolerated yet at the same time responses should not be returned in the same manner and could be returned with a more neutral stance. Listening is also important. If a pro-war person really wants to shout at you, let him/her. Try to hear what he/she is saying and ask questions back in a non-threatening way.

Also, this is a sidewalk vigil - not a Federal Building Plaza vigil. We will not be permitted on the Federal Building Plaza. Since there is likely to be lots of people, we are advising folks to spread out on all four corners of the square there. If we are asked to disperse by police, we are advising vigilers to stay and start a moving vigil - from corner to corner - which is legal.

Most of all, this is a somber event. Not one more death - Not one more dollar. We want to convey this and similar messages to the public and the media in non-violent fashion. Let's make every attempt this evening to get the message out in that manner.

Please forward any questions to PPJ or 801-502-8556.

Thanks, and see you this evening.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: appeasers; freep; gloat; iraq; leftists; socialists
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I suggest arriving at 5:00 as the news media will be present at the beginning rather than the end, IMO. I will try to make it tonight (at 5pm and stick around for about 1hr). Note: this thing is right after work and they are expecting to be opposed.

Bring signs, flags etc.

I have freeped these folks before. Although they speak of no confrontation etc in their post; it is lip service. I have personally witnessed them trying to chase/initmitade the opposition off street corners. Nevertheless, keep you cool and don't let them cow you.

1 posted on 10/26/2005 8:11:27 AM PDT by batter
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To: RecallUVSC; JPJones; Utah Binger; Utah Girl; T Minus Four; Rad_J; givemefreedom; Technocrat; ...
PING! (Freep)

If there are any who wish to be added or taken off the Utah ping list, let me know.

2 posted on 10/26/2005 8:12:36 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8
This may seem unbelievable, but it is true. Tony Snow played the clip this morning. Ted Kennedy was referring to the anti-war bastards' much celebrated 2000th death in the war. He actually used these words --

"On this auspicious day........"

3 posted on 10/26/2005 8:14:33 AM PDT by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: RecallUVSC; JPJones; Utah Binger; Utah Girl; T Minus Four; Rad_J; givemefreedom; Technocrat; ...
PING! (Freep)

If there are any who wish to be added or taken off the Utah ping list, let me know.

4 posted on 10/26/2005 8:14:34 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: doug from upland; All
Unfortunately, not surprising. I was listening to Ingraham this morning and a guy made a comment I think could be used as a sign:

You don't support the troops by subverting their mission.

5 posted on 10/26/2005 8:16:50 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8
You don't support the troops by subverting their mission. -Do you think holding a memorial service for soldiers that gave their life is subverting their mission?
6 posted on 10/26/2005 8:21:47 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: soccer8

They actually think a death watch party makes them look compassionate and caring.

Ghouls.


7 posted on 10/26/2005 8:22:27 AM PDT by kenth (A zot! A zot! My kingdom for a zot!)
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To: soccer8

But what about the 1999th and 2001st? They just can't pull numbers out of the sky.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 8:22:48 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: SF Republican; All

I see your point. Their vigil is intended as anything but a memorial service nevertheless they will spin it as such and the MSM will march along with it. Scrub that sign idea.


9 posted on 10/26/2005 8:25:38 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8

Wouldn't it be nice to see a celebration for number of enemy killed?


10 posted on 10/26/2005 8:26:18 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe
Wouldn't it be nice to see a celebration for number of enemy killed?

In their eyes, this is a celebration of enemy killed.

11 posted on 10/26/2005 8:42:11 AM PDT by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: soccer8
I'll be there around 6:30-7:00.

Don't get off of work til then.

redrock

12 posted on 10/26/2005 8:57:08 AM PDT by redrock (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. --Will Rogers)
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To: SF Republican; RecallUVSC; JPJones; Utah Binger; Utah Girl; T Minus Four; Rad_J; givemefreedom; ...
See SF Republican's comment. S/he brings up an important point (I should've known better!). Remember when you make up your sign(s) that the media will:
1. Portray the peacenicks as completely mainstream 2. Take and regurgitate the peacenicks talking points (no matter how disingenuous the points may be).

As stated, I've freeped these guys several times. In each instance the media has only shown images of the minority non-vulgar signs (didn't show the Bush=Hitler, swastika, f* this and that stuff etc etc) and interview the few who look like they actually got out of bed and changed clothes in the morning (harsh, yes, but so far it is true).

If the media interviews you, remember to think before you speak. If you say outrageous stuff like 'they have our troops blood on their hands or they are happy our troops are dead' it will make the news and cast us in a bad light. At the same time, similar statements they make will be given a pass. Some reporters are fairer than others but, as a rule, don't expect to get a fair reporter.

13 posted on 10/26/2005 9:07:17 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8

Add me to the ping list. I live in Loga, though I won't be able to make it tonight. I will be watching the news however. Channel 4 is usually pretty good about being fair.


14 posted on 10/26/2005 9:12:26 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
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To: Ragtop

Sorry, "Loga" should read "Logan". But the way my morning has been, I might as well be from "Loga".


15 posted on 10/26/2005 9:15:32 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
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To: Ragtop

There are mornings like that...If this was Thursday, or even yesterday, I would have been going, too.

But if anyone gets good pics, I can put some up on my blog to get some of the word out.


16 posted on 10/26/2005 9:25:33 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: soccer8

bttt


17 posted on 10/26/2005 10:01:25 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Some assembly required.)
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To: soccer8

"anti-war" = pro-Al Qaeda


18 posted on 10/26/2005 10:05:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: soccer8
Just to put the 2,000 figure in context: When I was a teen and early 20s driver in the 1960s, annual deaths on our highways were near or more than 50,000. Thus nearly 2,000 died on the highways of the US in a mere two weeks. Each soldier lost is a tragedy especially since those soldiers in an all volunteer military are among the best among us. Nonetheless, 2,000 dead in 30 months is quite expectable.

The anti-war anti-troops anti-Americans who whine so constantly on behalf of our enemies are verrrrrry upset at the use of tax dollars for anything other than the advance of socialism and the firmer establishment of the domestic nanny state.

The Americong have every right to freedom of speech although most of them, unlike our soldiers, have done absolutely nothing to deserve any freedoms whatsoever. The Americong richly deserve our regularly expressed contempt.

19 posted on 10/26/2005 10:15:14 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: soccer8

What a shame Mother@#$#$ Sheehan won't be able to attend. I hear she's going to be tied up for a few days...

Good luck on the FReep : )


20 posted on 10/26/2005 10:55:53 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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