[mcg2000]

A undocumented Jim Quinn PING!

[EagleUSA]

The next conservatism needs to reveal the man behind the curtain - - old Karl Marx himself.
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...and she wants to be President in 2008...and needs to be revealed.

[gondramB]

" It is commonly known as "multiculturalism" "

I can't hear that term without think about the Remo Williams novels when Chuin the ancient assassin training Remo called it Cultimulchuralism.

The novels are wonderful, by the way - they start in the 60's and relentlessly mock political correctness from its origins through the 80's.

[rdb3]

I always understood Cultural Marxism as nothing more than political correctness.

Karl Marx had nothing on Antonio Gramsci.

If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

[hang 'em]

Doonesbury must die.

[bubman]

bump

[A. Pole]

Cultural Marxism is a branch of western Marxism, different from the Marxism-Leninism of the old Soviet Union. It is commonly known as "multiculturalism" or, less formally, Political Correctness. From its beginning, the promoters of cultural Marxism have known they could be more effective if they concealed the Marxist nature of their work, hence the use of terms such as "multiculturalism."

Political Correctness bump!

[Doctor Raoul]

Marcuse also argued for what he called "liberating tolerance," which he defined as tolerance for all ideas coming from the Left and intolerance for any ideas coming from the Right.

That's an obvious trait of liberals.

[DancesWithBolsheviks]

Communist Manifesto - One small book for a man, one giant ulcer for mankind.

[Moose Dung]

Smoothsailing,

Very important post. I am currently reading, and would highly recommend the book "Explaining Postmodernism" by Steven Hicks.

Amazon Link

Postmodernism is the core ideology of the left. Reading about its orgins in Marxism is key to understanding what would otherwise appear to be irrational behavior. Have you ever asked yourself, What are they thinking?!?! Knowing the philosophical roots and its development over the past 150 years is critical to knowing what is going on around us.

dung.

Spoiler: It isn't pretty.

[TASMANIANRED]

btt

[The_Reader_David]

The trouble is "Cultural Marxism" is a stupid name, reflecting an intellectual tone-deafness to the actual content of the 21st century left, a lack of perceptiveness, which makes fighting them harder.

The left is no longer Marxist, but Nietzschean.

"Multiculturalism" and feminist separatism represent Nietzschean transvaluations of values: they embrace the stereotypes old Marxist anti-racism (which bizarrely had more in common with American conservatism than this new movement does) fought against, but with the value assigned to them turned upside down. Blacks do have rhythm, but that makes them superior to whites; women are less rational, more driven by emotion, but that makes them better suited to formulating 'humane' social and foreign policies; etc.

The Nietzschean left also embraces Nietzsche's romanticization of nature--radical environmentalism--and the savage as opposed to the civilized--hence their affinity for the Jihadis. The Marxist 'religion is the opiate of the masses,' which would alienate them from the Muslims as much as from Christians, is replaced with Nietzsche's special antipathy for Christianity (they seem to ignore the fact he hated Buddhism at least a much. . .perhaps because there aren't many genuine classical Buddhists in America. . . or perhaps, since their Nietzscheanism is derivative, via Heidegger and Sartre, they don't care to follow him on this--after all 'Buddhist' meditation techniques are a nice way to relax.)

Continuing to fight 'Marxists' is a mistake: fighting the last war always is.

[Captainpaintball]

I remember, back in 2002, going to a student/faculty "roundtable discussion" about Political Correctness, started in part by a guest column I wrote in the paper about the stupidity of PC. When I gave the origins of political correctness (Which I learned from Mr. Lind's exellent articles) the resident Jew-hating, Palestinian loving Marxist professor plotzed right there in front of me, and had to sit down.

I learned then and there that ONE Conservative professor in each and every college campus in the country can change the downward slide into the proverbial toilet. Thank you, Mr. Lind!

[rogue yam]

Ping for later reference.

[Peelod]

Who is Antonio Gramsci? You Better Learn!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a4c610569be.htm

[paudio]

I think the first similarity between 'old' Marxism and current PC is that they are based on the idea of conflict: Conflict between the oppressor and oppressed group(s). For old Marx, of course, the conflict is based on the economy: between the ruling class and the proletar. The later versions, such as multiculturalism, feminism, Islamo-facism, etc., simply took the conflict idea and assign the role of oppressor and oppressed group. For feminism, the oppressor/oppressed are male/female. PC-style multiculturalists: majority/minorities. Gays: heterosexual/homosexual. Islamo-facists: Christians and Jews/ Muslims. Radical racism: white/blacks.

The other similarity is that all theories accept that the social structure and institutions perpetuates the oppression activities.

Where the current ideology of post-modern differ from old one is the notion of 'experience': unless you are female, you cannot comprehend what female feels. This, of course, is different from old Marxism. As a poster pointed out already, old Marxism would put Islamo-facists in the same box as Christians. Meanwhile, the post-mo crowd will defend that Muslims' experience under centuries of 'Christian colonialism' should count for something.

[Kay Ludlow]

BTTT

[Carry_Okie]

The author neglects to mention that one of the reasons the Frankfurt School settled in the US was because the Roosevelt Administration was infested with Marxists. Democrat affiliations with communism have been continuously more than superficial going back at least 100 years. This is partly because a fair portion of the American Northeastern elite was sending their kids to school in Europe. What they brought home was not a good thing.

In addition to Marcuse, the author neglected to mention a few names and explain who these people in the Frankfurt School were. Allow me to add a couple: Eric Fromm (Critical Theory and feminism), Abraham Maslow (using the power of medical licensing to supplant religious values with psychiatry, and the developer of "sensitivity training").

This may be the most important thread of history in the 20th Century, perhaps more significant than the World Wars. Needless to say, children aren't told a word in public schools.

Here are a few good papers on the topic;

Erich Fromm, Feminism, and the Frankfurt School
What is the Frankfurt School?
Who Placed American Men in a Psychic 'Iron Cage?' Part I
Who Placed American Men in a Psychic 'Iron Cage?' Part II

[King Prout]

this is important
carry-okie has some links downthread (from #1, not this ping) to supplemental historical analyses which are quite disturbing.

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I am too tired to read this - just sneaking on to FR for a minute - but I know this is a good read and relevant to the purpose of this pinglist! Will read it tomorrow and I hope to also read your comments!

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.