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Christian group wants to 'redeem' US states
Reuters ^ | 10-24-2005 | Harriet McLeod

Posted on 10/24/2005 8:36:18 AM PDT by Cagey

CHARLESTON, South Carolina (Reuters) - Cory Burnell wants to set up a Christian nation within the United States where abortion is illegal, gay marriage is banned, schools cannot teach evolution, children can pray to Jesus in public schools and the Ten Commandments are posted publicly.

To that end, Burnell, 29, left the Republican Party, moved from California and founded Christian Exodus two years ago with the goal of redirecting the United States by "redeeming" one state at a time.

First up for redemption is South Carolina.

Burnell hopes to move 2,500 Christians into the northern part of the state by next year and to persuade tens of thousands to relocate by 2016. His goal is to fill the state legislature with "Christian constitutionalists."

The push comes at a time when Christian fundamentalism is a growing force in U.S. politics, displays of the Ten Commandments in government buildings are spurring litigation and President George W. Bush is touting the evangelical Christian credentials of Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

Christian Exodus officially started in May 2004, reaching people mainly through the Internet. Since then, five families and two individuals have relocated to South Carolina, Burnell said.

The organization, which claims about 1,000 members, held its first conference October 15-16 to promote its agenda. About 50 people from as far away as Ohio and Oregon attended.

Burnell picked South Carolina partly for its Christian majority and conservative politics.

"Historically, Southerners do have a states' rights mentality," he said. "Christians in the North are experiencing the most liberalism, or you could say persecution."

Christian Exodus hopes to throw off what it considers unconstitutional burdens imposed by the federal government. Examples, Burnell said, are federal spending on public education and the National Endowment for the Arts, and the use of the courts "to teach that Heather has two mommies."

"We (want to) force Washington, D.C., to reform itself by not going along with it," he said.

The organization's Web site says if it does not meet its goal of change, it will work to secede from the United States.

South Carolina was the first state to secede from the union in 1860, and the first shots of the U.S. Civil War were fired from Charleston's Battery onto Fort Sumter.

The group's reception in South Carolina has been mixed.

Arthur Bryngelson, chairman of the Dorchester County Republican Party, spoke at a Christian Exodus' conference and said he would encourage Christian Exodus members to become Republicans.

"I consider myself to be a fundamental Christian," he said. "I'm with (Christian Exodus) all the way up to secession. ... I'm not in favor of going down to the Battery and firing on Fort Sumter again."

State Sen. Mike Fair, a Republican who described himself as "a narrow-minded, right-wing, fundamentalist fanatic," said he was suspicious of Christian Exodus.

"I had huge credibility problems with them," he said. "Their plank for this perceived buckle of the Bible Belt, they're so far off the mark. I don't think they're going to get much traction."

Joel Sawyer, spokesman for Republican Gov. Mark Sanford, would not comment except to say, "We have a great state with a great quality of life that's certainly open to anyone."

Columbia attorney Herbert E. Buhl III, who does legal work for the American Civil Liberties Union, said he received "a nasty little letter ... calling me a liar" from a Christian Exodus representative.

Buhl said the letter came after he had represented Wiccan Darla Wynne, who successfully sued the town of Great Falls to remove the name of Jesus Christ from pre-meeting prayers. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed in 2004 with a federal judge that the town's prayers were an unconstitutional endorsement of religion by government.

"This should be a nonissue," Buhl said. "It's separation of church and state. This is black-letter law."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: christianexodus; heroes; treason
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1 posted on 10/24/2005 8:36:19 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

"Burnell hopes to move 2,500 Christians into the northern part of the state by next year"

Can you say "Jim Jones"?


2 posted on 10/24/2005 8:39:43 AM PDT by Dr. Luv (QQ)
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To: Cagey

I can't imagine anyone wanting to live in South Carolina, regardless of the reasons.


3 posted on 10/24/2005 8:40:11 AM PDT by TommyDale (I'm not schizophrenic, and neither am I...)
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To: Cagey

I respect their goals, but have to point out there already is such a God-fearing, isolated "nation" in the United States: it's the Amish. They've lived their own way amid the "English" (that's all the rest of us Americans) for several hundred years.


4 posted on 10/24/2005 8:40:14 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Cagey

Their model should be Utah...


5 posted on 10/24/2005 8:40:18 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Cagey

Great, another group of yankee carpetbaggers. :)


6 posted on 10/24/2005 8:40:34 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Cagey

As a God-fearing Christian, I'd as soon have the Taliban take power than these "righteous" folks.


7 posted on 10/24/2005 8:41:08 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Cagey
Just settling down for a good horror movie. Munching
8 posted on 10/24/2005 8:43:47 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: TommyDale

Thats because, according to your profile, you lived in Northern California all of your life. As much as you apparently don't like the deep south, they probably like the idea of you living here even less.


9 posted on 10/24/2005 8:46:20 AM PDT by SC33
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To: Cagey
Left the Republican party for which other one? Probably one that can't win. Yeah, that's how you'll influence things.
10 posted on 10/24/2005 8:50:12 AM PDT by Tim Long (When the gunsmoke settles we'll sing a victory tune.)
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To: Cagey

Sounds cultish to me...


11 posted on 10/24/2005 8:53:02 AM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Wiseghy

It *is* a cult.


12 posted on 10/24/2005 8:54:20 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dr. Luv

It sounds like the Free State project or the book Molon Labe for South Carolina. I wish them luck, but I don't think that secession line will help them get much support from current residents.


13 posted on 10/24/2005 8:56:33 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Cagey; TommyDale
Christian Exodus hopes to throw off what it considers unconstitutional burdens imposed by the federal government. Examples, Burnell said, are federal spending on public education and the National Endowment for the Arts, and the use of the courts "to teach that Heather has two mommies."

He's right on that one. This secession stuff, however, just isn't going to fly.

TommyDale, if you don't like SC, then don't move there and keep your mouth shut about it. The people in SC are far nicer than in CA. I've heard it said, from someone who lived in NYC that, "in New York, you have to convince them you're not an axe murderer before they'll talk to you. In South Carolina, you have to convince them you are an axe murderer before they won't talk to you."
14 posted on 10/24/2005 8:57:00 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: SC33

I love the deep South. I actually like Greenville and Charleston, SC. I just can't imagine trying to lure tens of thousands of people away from their current homes to move to Northern South Carolina...


15 posted on 10/24/2005 8:57:11 AM PDT by TommyDale (I'm not schizophrenic, and neither am I...)
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To: Betty Jane

"I wish them luck, but I don't think that secession line will help them get much support from current residents."

LOL, don't be so sure about that. That being said, this appears to be a very strange idea. It does seem somewhat cultish.


16 posted on 10/24/2005 8:58:08 AM PDT by SC33
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To: SC33

They don't understand the part where Jesus says "my kingdom is not of this world"


17 posted on 10/24/2005 8:58:52 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: TommyDale

Oh, my bad. I completely agree with you on that point. I interpreted your statement as saying that South Carolina is a bad place and that the deep south in general is undesirable.

I agree that this is odd. Can't understand it either.


18 posted on 10/24/2005 8:59:27 AM PDT by SC33
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To: Cagey

Like all such movements, this one is silly. The good folks of South Carolina, overwhelmingly Christian, will simply absorb any influx of other Christians. The new arrivals are not coming in numbers sufficient to make any change whatsoever in the state. They might get elected to some city council in some small town they decide to settle in, but that's it.

In the meantime, the leader of Christian Exodus will continue to pad his bank account.

Silliness.


19 posted on 10/24/2005 9:00:27 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

If they really wanted to change the status quo, why would they choose a state that is already essentially their ideal? I figured they would try and change the culture in a liberal northern state, not a deeply religous conservative southern state.

I don't understand any of this.


20 posted on 10/24/2005 9:02:19 AM PDT by SC33
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