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1 posted on 10/24/2005 1:40:05 AM PDT by kcvl
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I'm really sick of these media people who continue to say Valerie was an "operative" - SHE WAS NOT AN OPERATIVE - SHE WAS AN ANALYST!!

THERE WAS NO LEAK OF AN OPERATIVE's NAME!!!!


2 posted on 10/24/2005 1:45:05 AM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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among options.... Fitzgerald seems to be.... possible charges.... according to lawyers and other sources involved in the case.... how Republicans would counter charges.... may convene the grand jury.... legal sources said....

And they get paid for this? What a racket!


Also what CyberAnt said! Sheesh!

SHE WAS NOT AN OPERATIVE - SHE WAS AN ANALYST!!

6 posted on 10/24/2005 2:08:14 AM PDT by Watery Tart ("The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." --Vince Lombardi)
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To: kcvl

These lefties will be completely undone if Fitgerald doesn't indict.

But this guy looks like a life-long dmocrat from Brooklyn and that concerns me some.


10 posted on 10/24/2005 2:16:37 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: kcvl
It seems to me, with the flurry of news breathlessly reporting all of these indictments that are supposed to come out of this Grand Jury, that the media is just setting up to be able to scream 'cover up' when NO indictments are handed down because the prosecutor found NOTHING for which to indict anyone. The media can then fulminate all the way up to the 2006 elections to try to smear every Republican candidate for Congress, then up to the 2008 election for any candidate who resembles President Bush, policy-wise, in any way.

In the MSM's mind, either way, they win.

11 posted on 10/24/2005 2:38:09 AM PDT by SuziQ
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I should start making book with my Lib friends over this. I could ask for long odds on the bet that there will be absolutely no indictments, and they would be all over that action.

They really expect something is going to come from this steaming pile besides stink.


13 posted on 10/24/2005 4:31:47 AM PDT by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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What happened to what Robert Novak said, that it wasn't a 'partisan gun-slinger'- does the MSM forget that?????
How do they account for that??


25 posted on 10/24/2005 6:02:01 AM PDT by go-ken-go
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From Mullings.com

If you click on the link you will be taken directly to the subscription page after which you can return here to read the rest of this edition of Mullings. I'll wait.

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Official - and unofficial - Washington was abuzz this weekend with the twin developments in the Valerie Plame/Flame/Miller/Libby/Rove case.

First there was the news that the Special Counsel in the case, Patrick Fitzgerald, has put up a web site (http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/) which he had not done for the first three years of the investigation.

That led everyone to assume that indictments will be announced this week causing Washington-based reporters to cancel any travel plans they may have made so they can be in their actual offices in Washington if and when this happens.

The second CIA-scandal-related development was the extremely rare peek into the newsroom at the New York Times and the increasing tensions between reporters and senior management over the whole Judith Miller deal.

Veteran Washington reporter Kit Seelye was assigned to write a piece about a memo that executive editor Bill Keller sent to the staff which said Ms. Miller had "mislead" the Times' Washington bureau chief as to whether she was one of the reporters involved in the leak at the outset.

Keller's memo also said he had not been aware of the "entanglement" of Ms. Miller and the Vice President's chief of staff, Scooter Libby.

"Entanglement" is a very charged, very provocative word which Mr. Keller must have used with the full knowledge of all the eyebrow-raising it would certainly trigger.

Miller understood what was being implied and denied, in a counter memo, any "personal, social, or other relationship" with Libby other an as a source.

This is not an esoteric inside-the-Beltway deal. It now seems likely that someone (or someoneS) will be indicted and the New York Times apparently believes it was conned by its own, Pulitzer Prize winning, reporter.

On Friday, the NY Times had, in the lead paragraph of its front-pager on the scandal, the following:
… Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special counsel, is focusing on whether Karl Rove … and I. Lewis Libby Jr. … sought to conceal their actions and mislead prosecutors, lawyers involved in the case said Thursday.

Observers here (that's reporter-speak for reporters talking to other reporters, often at the bar in which the press filing center is located) are mulling over whether one of the "lawyers involved in the case" is Robert Bennett who is Judith Miller's lawyer, who is reportedly being paid by the NY Times.

The question overloading the local telephone lines on Friday was: If one of those lawyers is, in fact, Mr. Bennett how can he be used as an anonymous source (in a case which revolves around the misuse of anonymous sources) without disclosing who he is, and what his relationship is to the Times and Ms. Miller.

On the other hand, if Bennett was not one of the lawyers being referenced, why didn't the Times make that clear so that goofballs like me, who have nothing better to do than e-mail real reporters and ask them whether this makes any ethical sense at all, would not raise these uncomfortable questions.


28 posted on 10/24/2005 6:24:29 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: kcvl

Perjury and obstruction of justice sound to me like charges that would be made against reporters (and possibly Joe Wilson), not administration officials.


37 posted on 10/24/2005 10:26:31 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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The lefts premise hear is that the WH outed Plame to embarrass Wilson.

Anyone ever hear an explanation on how this would embarrass Wilson?

I think the likely outcome is that Rove and Libby will possible get indicted for perjury and/or obstruction in the investigation of an event that in and of itself was not a crime. Entrapment anyone?

38 posted on 10/24/2005 10:30:58 AM PDT by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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Reminds me of a football umpire at an NFL game viewing a replay of a questionable call ... the player was clearly in bounds ... let's move on.


44 posted on 10/24/2005 11:13:16 AM PDT by BluH2o
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