Flight 93 Crescent of Embrace remains unchanged.

Conservative Tymes (Blog) ^ | 10/27/05 | Sher Zieve

[backhoe]

The Lizards over at LGF have some rather pointed opinions about this-- see the "comments" section:

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php

Flight 93 "Crescent of Embrace" Remains Unchanged

Sher Zieve notices that even though the Flight 93 memorial project organizers announced they would reconsider their design, the Flight 93 “Crescent of Embrace” Remains Unchanged.  link: 138 comments

 Perhaps we haven't made ourselves sufficiently clear. Isn't it funny when people think you're just going to get bored and go away?

#128

fmfnavydoc  10/22/2005 03:00PM PDT

 

I'm no designer or architech, but this is what I would think would be a fitting memorial to Flight 93...

A grove of evergreens in the distance - one for each passenger and crewmember(minus the slopeydopes)

A White marble wall - shillouttes of the passengers and crew (minus the slopeydopes), wiht their names, date of birth and hometowns and religious faith etched in black.

On both ends of the wall, the following statement:

On this spot, on September 11, 2001, Americans stood up, fought and died in the first major battle in the war against Islamic Terrorism.

"LET'S ROLL"

[Savage Beast]

Just put a Nazi swastika or--better yet--the number "666" on top of the crescent, and the irony will be fulfilled.

[zzen01]

Any one have a bulldozer to take care of this POS when it is finished.

[publiusF27]

Anyone that says, "there is no god by Allah" refuses to allow you the freedom to believe

Uh, careful there...

Exodus » Chapter 20

The First Two Commandments

20:1 God spoke all these words, saying:
20:2 I am God your Lord, who brought you out of Egypt, from the place of slavery.
20:3 Do not have any other gods before Me.
20:4 Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything in the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land.
20:5 Do not bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who demands exclusive worship. Where My enemies are concerned, I keep in mind the sin of the fathers for [their] descendants, to the third and fourth [generation].
20:6 But for those who love Me and keep My commandments, I show love for thousands [of generations].

[upchuck]

Just for grins I ran the architect's philosophy through the Ebonics translator. This is pretty funny:

A primary task o' dis here generation iz ta create new patterns o' development dat sustain human habitation on dis here planet. Towards dis here end, da principles adopted fo' our practice iz intended ta ensure dat each project contributes ta an overall goal o' environmental responsibility while striving fo' design excellence.

As architects, we's iz uniquely qualified ta he`p formulate an' translate policy into tangible form; mitigating pressures o' urbanity wiff da need ta heal da natural environment. Each design solution iz seen as uh contribution ta da human condition; as it exists taday an' evolves into future generations.

Our goal iz ta define an' study problems both in terms o' clients’ direct needs an' relative ta long term effects on natural an' nig made surroundings. More than problem solving however, we's aspire ta emotionally affect an' uplift our lives through poetry an' beauty.

It iz through deez transcendent qualities dat we's optimistically strive fo' ways ta enrich life an' fulfill our original purpose fo' engaging in da practice o' architecture. wazzup?

Can somebody please post the "Man the lifeboats" BS Meter graphic? Very applicable :)

[Dark Skies]

Uh, careful there...

You obviously know nothing about Islam (or you are a muslim).

Is there freedom of religious practice in America? How about Saudi Arabia? Which religion is it that kills you if you leave it?

The God of the Jews and Christians wants your love and wants you to be free. The Islamic Allah (the god of anger and hatred and destruction) wants you to be his slave.

[StAnDeliver]

I have suggested that a simple modification, where the circle would be flattened on the sides, then the apex of the oval opened and the new endpoints slightly flared outward from the circumference, would offer a positive, acceptable alternative to a intentionally misbegotten design.

I would also ring the two new sides in dogwoods, completely encapsulating the red maples.

Yes, I am aware that the UN logo also contains a laurel, but they in turn, merely borrowed it from European heraldic history.

This would be a low-impact but thorough change from the radical original. Any FReeper is encouraged to propagate this idea or come up with an alternative, because that is what is needed at this late stage of the game -- an acceptable alternative.

[mcg2000]

bump

[StAnDeliver]

Chris_in_nj: "I for one will be outraged if I find out that the artist had intended to extend an olive branch to the Islamofaschists through this design. But it does seem that this would be a natural use of complimenting the treeline that Flight 93 plowed into on 9/11. I could be wrong - but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt until we find out more."

Courtesy ping to this thread and also curious to know if your opinion has changed in the intervening 40 days since your post.

[StAnDeliver]

Reads like nonsense from the deep ecology cult. I wouldn't hire this firm to design a cupcake.

This was buried in the original Post-Gazette story that brought this into the MSM:

"It's a memorial to the terrorists," McRae said. "It's not a memorial to the innocent Americans who died there."

But Tom Sokolowski, the director of the Andy Warhol Museum, and one of the Stage II jury members, said that claim is 'asinine'. "If the families of the 40 people who were killed felt this was an appropriate symbol to honor their loved ones, then I think he is delusional," he said. "To take this small-minded, bigoted view is disgusting and repellent." -- Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, by Paula Reed Ward

Well, the Internet is full of all kind of interesting things:

"MONDAY: Last night I dreamed that I return to New York City...AIDS was all around me again. People were sick, people were dying...and yet--yet--style was everywhere...AIDS graphics were stylish, Robert Mapplethorpe's photographs were stylish, ACT-Up meetings were echt stylish and the attendees young and hot! The younger you were, the tighter your jeans, the closer cropped your hair, the louder your bray...Get relevant, get laid. It was hot and in supremely good taste. Yum...All so tasteful. Lush dying. If a bunch of fags was to hang some crepe, then dammit it was going to be real peu de soi, Mary! And hang the crepe we did." -- The Unfashionability of AIDS, by Tom Sokolowski (Director of the Andy Warhol Museum).

This was buried in the original Post-Gazette story that brought this into the MSM:

[metmom]

The plans for the memorial may remain unchanged but the memorial itself won't. I see this becoming the most defaced memorial in the world and defacing it would be no insult to those who died. The memorial is a slap in the face to those heros and this country. We need to take this country back.

[sheik yerbouty]

A couple of bulldozers could eventually change it..

[mewzilla]

Isn't the Heinz Foundation at work here somewhere? I thought their money was paying for at least some of this. Which explains a lot.

[metmom]

Sounds great to me. You got my vote.

[conservativebabe]

Couldn't agree with you more.

That stuff from the architects web-site reads like a pathetic romance novel. Design your buildings and shut up!

This memorial is shameful and it is really sad. The people who died on Flight 93 and this is the best that can be done for them, when there is no telling how many lives they saved?

[Alouette]

A primary task of this generation is to create new patterns of development that sustain human habitation on this planet. Towards this end, the principles adopted for our practice are intended to ensure that each project contributes to an overall goal of environmental responsibility while striving for design excellence.

Translated into English, this means: "I am a pretentious, pompous ass."

[NorseWood]

The American Institute of Architects has been taken over by a bunch of liberals who are pushing "green" buildings. They are pushing their philosophy on nearly every municipal public works department in the country to incorporate "green building" design into all new buildings. Look at the "LEED" program and compare it to the goals of the United Nations. This "green" movement is being pushed by the U.N.

[BenLurkin]

A simple garden with a tall flagpole topped with a huge American flag -- and a marble dais that reads "Let's Roll".

[soltice]

Current Memorial Design (Video and Power Point show available)

On Wednesday, 16 September 2005, Joanne Hanley, the National Park Service superintendent for the memorial, said key changes would be made to a proposed 9/11Pennsylvania memorial "to eliminate any association with a crescent -- a symbol of Islam."

Joanne Hanley said that they have been receiving a number of growing complaints about the design, specifically that the design evokes Islam, the religion of the terrorists who hijacked the plane.

It appears that Joanne Hanlke, a government official, lied?

• War on Terror - AMERICA! - Your Voices were Heard! - Monday, October 03, 2005
• War on Terror - Crescent of Surrender - Monday, September 12, 2005
• War on Terror - Flight 93 Memorial Update - Saturday, September 10, 2005
• War on Terror - 'Swastika of Embrace' Memorial over Dashau - Friday, September 09, 2005

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Let these terrorist sympathizers know that we’re still watching and that we will not accept any “honors” to terrorists. It is not even remotely acceptable.

http://www.fs.fed.us/contactus

www.flight93memorialproject.org

www.paulmurdocharchitects.com

[Luigi Vasellini]

Did you know if you bisect the 2 points of the crescent, they point within a few tenths of a degree to GUESS WHERE???? This memorial was a purposeful act to side with our enemies!!!