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Dems Tap Patrick Fitzgerald for Impeachment Probe
NewsMax.com ^ | Oct. 22, 2005 | NewsMax.com

Posted on 10/22/2005 8:50:42 PM PDT by kddid

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee are so pleased with reports that Leakgate prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is about to indict senior White House officials that they want him to lead an impeachment investigation into whether President Bush lied to Congress about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

"The CIA leak issue is only the tip of the iceberg,” House Judiciary Democrat Jerrold Nadler complains in a message posted to his web site.

In a letter asking the Justice Department to expand the scope of Fitzgerald's investigation, Nadler says: "We now have reason to believe that high crimes may have been committed at the highest level [and] wrongdoing that may have led us to war and imperiled our national security.”

If there is evidence that Bush or Cheney authorized aides to deliberately mislead lawmakers, Nadler told Congressional Quarterly: "That would be an impeachable offense.'"

The Manhattan Democrat is asking Acting Deputy Attorney General Robert McCallum to direct Fitzgerald to probe efforts by the White House to discredit critics of the Iraq war like former Ambassador Joe Wilson. Nadler wants Fitzgerald to determine whether attacks on Wilson were part of a "broader conspiracy knowingly to mislead Congress into authorizing a war."

Even before leaks from Fitzgerald's investigation indicated he planned indictments, Rep. Maurice Hinchey let slip the Democrats' plan to impeach Bush for alleged Iraq war lies.

In quotes picked up by the Ithaca Journal, Hinchey said in August: "My greatest hope is that all of these things will be revealed, they will be revealed in a very direct and legal context, and that in 2006 a Democratic majority will be elected to the House of Representatives, and in February of [2007] impeachment proceedings will begin."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; 200702; cialeak; comey; impeachment; jamescomey; jerroldnadler; joewilson; josephwilson; kabuki; moonbats; nadler; niger; nigerflap; uranium
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To: Paleo Conservative

They couldn't even schedule an impeachment vote.


Teddy can make it.........if you catch him early enough in the day.


161 posted on 10/22/2005 11:58:11 PM PDT by Just Lori (Tony Schaeffer, Curt Weldon, Able Danger....... PAY ATTENTION.)
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To: All

What makes the rats think Fitzgerald wants to be a part of their show trials in the house basement?


162 posted on 10/23/2005 12:03:09 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Libloather
Will we ever find out which Top Secret documents an ex-*Crinton NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR stole from the archives - while preparing for the official 9/11 investigation panel?

As soon as they tell us the real truth about OKC and Flight 800.

Terrorism was covered up all through Clinton's administration. But it goes further than that.............. as you can see, no one really gets punished.

163 posted on 10/23/2005 12:18:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
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To: furquhart

You're right.


164 posted on 10/23/2005 12:22:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
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To: Txsleuth
Have you noticed, though, that Ijaz has been on Fox much any more???

You're right, I haven't seen him in a very long time.

165 posted on 10/23/2005 12:27:23 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
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To: kddid
Following is the Sept. 2002 membership list of the Progressive Caucus:
Neil Abercrombie -- Hawaii
Tammy Baldwin -- Wisconsin
Xavier Becerra -- California
David Bonior -- Michigan
Corrine Brown -- Florida
Sherron Brown -- Ohio
Michael Capuano -- Massachusetts
Julia Carson -- Indiana
William "Lacy" Clay -- Missouri
John Conyers -- Michigan
Danny Davis -- Illinois
Peter DeFazio -- Oregon
Rosa DeLauro -- Connecticut
Lane Evans -- Illinois
Eni Faleomavaega -- Am Samoa
Sam Farr -- California
Chaka Fattah -- Pennsylvania
Bob Filner -- California
Barney Frank -- Massachusetts
Luis Gutierrez -- Illinois
Earl Hilliard -- Alabama
Maurice Hinchey -- New York
Jesse Jackson Jr. -- Illinois
Sheila Jackson-Lee -- Texas
Stephanie Tubbs Jones -- Ohio
Marcy Kaptur -- Ohio
Dennis Kucinich -- Ohio
Tom Lantos -- California
Barbara Lee -- California
John Lewis -- Georgia
Jim McDermott -- Washington
James P. McGovern -- Massachusetts
Cynthia McKinney -- Georgia
Carrie Meek -- Florida
George Miller -- California
Patsy Mink -- Hawaii
Jerry Nadler -- New York
Eleanor Holmes Norton -- D.C.
John Olver -- Massachusetts
Major Owens -- New York
Ed Pastor -- Arizona
Donald Payne -- New Jersey
Nancy Pelosi -- California
Bobby Rush -- Illinois
Bernie Sanders -- Vermont
Jan Schakowsky -- Illinois
Jose Serrano -- New York
Hilda Solis -- California
Pete Stark -- California
Bennie Thompson -- Mississippi
John Tierney -- Massachusetts
Tom Udall -- New Mexico
Nydia Velazquez -- New York
Maxine Waters -- California
Diane Watson -- California
Mel Watt -- North Carolina
Henry Waxman -- California
Paul Wellstone -- Minnesota
Lynn Woolsey -- California

Here is a list of 2003 members of the Progressive Caucus of the House of Representatives:   http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp

166 posted on 10/23/2005 12:49:59 AM PDT by hope (Let no man deceive you!)
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To: kddid

I don't think the dims control either body of Congress, last time I looked. They certainly can't direct or order any person or group to do anything...they are not the party in power. Doughboy Nadler can rant all he wants but the lowly dims are not in power, no matter what they think.

LMAO!


167 posted on 10/23/2005 1:26:21 AM PDT by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: kddid

Nadler is one of the guys the Democrats trot out whenever they feel the need to convince the true-believers, Kool-Aid drinkers on DU and the MoveOn.org mailing list that they really are "acting" on what the nutcase, moonbat base really wants. He's just "important" (mostly just name-id amongst the Left) enough for them to thing that their leadership is taking them seriously, but not enough to show up on the radarscreens of mainstream and swing voters.

IOW, these comments are just pandering by one of the Dem's designated panderers.

One thing to consider is that there has been a good deal of analysis (I think Charlie Cook produced one of them) showing that the chances of the Republicans losing the House are slight. Blue districts are becoming blue-er, Red districts are becoming Redder and thanks to the Democrats "shoot your own foot" decision to segregate something like 25% of their base in majority-minority districts (rather than spreading the overwhelmingly Democratic precincts out to create swing districts) the House looks to be fairly stable in seat apportionment until after the next census.

Doesn't mean that Republicans and Conservatives should take things for granted (promoting the idea that the Democrats will launch impeachment hearings if they retake the House works as well at mobilizing our base as theirs) and we really need to work hard to ensure that the current majority exists after 2006 ... but it does seem to indicate that at this point the Dems feel they need to pander to their base.


168 posted on 10/23/2005 1:33:08 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


169 posted on 10/23/2005 4:41:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: oceanview
"I just don't think the Dems would be tossing around statements like this if they didn't know the indictments were in the bag."

Don't know, but their commentary has gotten ever more hysterical and irresponsible.

This may be another sign of how they have become unhinged.

170 posted on 10/23/2005 4:43:43 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Unfortunately, because of the nature of Grand Jury proceedings and legal matters in general, the Bush Administration has not been able to frame the debate on this.

I listened to a Democratic strategist yesterday on Fox and she is saying that if there are indictments all Americans will be disgusted. The implication is that Bush people tried to smear a critic.

The Republicans have to quickly get an alternate narrative out. The CIA and MSM tried to discredit a President during a time of war.


171 posted on 10/23/2005 5:22:32 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: oceanview
I have a sick, sinking feeling that you're right. The WH initial response to Katrina and the Miers nomination both show the second team or less is attempting to run the show. Yesterday the Washington Times reported that Rove has been almost completely distracted by this investigation and is not presently able to do the job he was hired for, which explains the remarkable ineptness of recent WH moves. Rove wouldn't be so seriously involved in this and distracted by it unless he deeply feared an indictment.

Given the legal weakness of the underlying case against Rove, et al, I suspect Fitzgerald has been getting people to testify again and again on essentially the same issues to develop conflicts of testimony where there weren't any in the first place and then use those conflicts to generate perjury and obstruction of justice charges. It isn't that hard a thing to do when a prosecutor has two years and unlimited funds to pursue this kind of activity. Indeed, given how hard it is to remember events over such a long period of time, it's very likely that good faith discrepancies between witnesses and within individual witnesses' testimony will develop, discepancies an unscrupulous prosecutor can exploit to manufacture perjury and obstruction of justice charges.

Worst of all, convictions aren't even needed in a situation like this. Being indicted is a horrific experience, one that's likely to cost Rove, Libby, or anybody else who is targeted well over a million dollars to defend against. Naturally, while the case is going on the man is incapacitated from doing his job. That incapacitation is just what the DemonRats want, even if there's no conviction. The present WH disorganization shows how destructive that incapacitation can be.

As a partial aside I can say that, although I oppose the Miers nomination and believe it's dead wrong, I continue wholeheartedly to support President Bush because we've got to win the WOT and defeat the DemonRats. The Miers thing is a family fight, and we must not let it destroy the family.

172 posted on 10/23/2005 5:48:41 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Add Frist to the list. They're running bogus insider trading charges against him.


173 posted on 10/23/2005 5:57:24 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Texas Songwriter
This will undermine the troops in the field ,but the dems do not give a damn.

I disagree. The do give a damn and they do want to undermine the troops in the field, just as they did with Watergate and Vietnam. WE'VE GOT TO STOP THEM THIS TIME. If we don't, we won't have a country.

174 posted on 10/23/2005 6:07:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: kddid
Rep. Maurice Hinchey let slip the Democrats' plan to impeach Bush

Let slip?

175 posted on 10/23/2005 6:09:20 AM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I heard that Barney Frank is looking for him....squeal like a pig..........


176 posted on 10/23/2005 6:11:59 AM PDT by GregB (Bring back Capt. Michael Scott Speicher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If the MSM supports the Dem's agenda (and it appears they do) then it has to be part of the strategy to try win back seats in the '06 elections by turning Republicans into criminals on par with the Clinton's.
177 posted on 10/23/2005 6:12:15 AM PDT by Pipeline (Belief is mostly governed by emotion, perception and peer pressure, seldom by independent thought)
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To: oceanview
I just don't think the Dems would be tossing around statements like this if they didn't know the indictments were in the bag.

I hope you are wrong, but indictments don't prove guilt.

Of course the political damage will have been done

178 posted on 10/23/2005 6:13:47 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: antonico

Treacherous Joe Wilson

Joe took the Islamicists' side,
When he said that the President lied.
Since the Times spread Joe's tale,
Please put them in jail
And, certainly, Joe should be fried


179 posted on 10/23/2005 6:14:36 AM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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To: Zeroisanumber
I hate it when elections start coming around, you always get this sort of crap going on. Everyone grandstands, nothing gets done. *ugh*

Sounds good to me.

180 posted on 10/23/2005 6:17:51 AM PDT by Young Scholar
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