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Britain Honors 1805 Battle of Trafalgar
Yahoo News ^ | 10/21/05 | EMILY BEHLMANN/AP

Posted on 10/22/2005 12:05:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

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"Trafalgar was vitally important for this country. Otherwise we would all be speaking French now," said Christina O'Farrell,

Actually, after the Corsican Napoleon died, I have no doubt the Frogs would have eagerly surrendered to the first army that came along.

1 posted on 10/22/2005 12:05:25 PM PDT by wagglebee
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"England expects that every man will do his duty"

Imagine there's days when honor and duty are understood.

2 posted on 10/22/2005 12:12:06 PM PDT by GVnana
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Not likely. The French could and did fight very well back then. It wasn't for lack of courage that the French/Spanish were defeated.


3 posted on 10/22/2005 12:21:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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I'm pretty sure that they took down Nelson's statue, and replaced it (temporarily, I believe) with a smaller statue of either a homeless person, or some nameless indian.

This would have been a month ago.

And I'm not kidding.

4 posted on 10/22/2005 12:23:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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I'm pretty sure that they took down Nelson's statue, and replaced it (temporarily, I believe) with a smaller statue of either a homeless person, or some nameless indian.

This would have been a month ago.

And I'm not kidding.

5 posted on 10/22/2005 12:23:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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I hadn't heard that, and it's somewhat surprising. As far as I knew, Lord Nelson was one of the few British heroes whose reputation is considered completely above reproach.


6 posted on 10/22/2005 12:30:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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My favourite TV channel, UKTV History, had on a Trafalgar Week, complete with documentaries about Lord Nelson. It was really glorious. As for Portsmouth being "faded" - I'm not sure what they mean by that, some parts of it are very lovely.

Regards, Ivan


7 posted on 10/22/2005 12:32:16 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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Do you know what this is about in post #4?


8 posted on 10/22/2005 12:34:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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No. Nelson is untouched atop his column. What you've read about is other statues on lower plinths in Trafalgar Sqare, of which there are several.


9 posted on 10/22/2005 12:35:16 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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I haven't heard anything of the kind.

Regards, Ivan


10 posted on 10/22/2005 12:36:17 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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It seemed rather ridiculous to me as well.


11 posted on 10/22/2005 12:37:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MadIvan

I speny my first twenty-one years in Portsmouth, and wouldn't quarrel with the 'faded' - though it's certainly been much smartened up more recently.


12 posted on 10/22/2005 12:38:11 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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Not bad for a guy with one eye and one arm.


13 posted on 10/22/2005 12:39:06 PM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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"You must hate a Frenchman as you do the devil"

"Let me alone: I have yet my legs and one arm. Tell the surgeon to make haste and his instruments. I know I must lose my right arm, so the sooner it's off the better."

"My character and good name are in my own keeping. Life with disgrace is dreadful. A glorious death is to be envied."
-- Admiral Lord Nelson

14 posted on 10/22/2005 12:48:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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A recent National Geographic's article about the Battle of Trafalgar mentioned that in order to preserve Lord Nelson's body, it was brought back home in a barrel of brandy.


15 posted on 10/22/2005 1:12:28 PM PDT by Atlantian
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Great, great Nelson. He was Napoleon's bete noir, and I've read that Napoleon even kept a bust of Nelson on his desk.

It's probably true, because Nelson chased him out of Egypt after the Battle of the Nile, and then there was the Battle of Copenhagen. Nelson routed the Danish fleet after being signaled during the height of the battle by Admiral Parker to discontinue the fight, and he said to marine Cap. Foley: "You know, Foley, I have only one eye. I have a right to be blind sometimes." And he put the looking glass to his blind eye and said, "I really do not see the signal." His ships pounded the Danes into surrendering as a result.

But Trafalgar will always remain his greatest triumph. He was a little bitty shrimp missing one eye and one arm lost in battle, but by God, Nelson knew how to win spectacular naval victories.

16 posted on 10/22/2005 1:24:01 PM PDT by xJones
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Are you talking about this...from a few years back?
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/caribbean/statue.htm


17 posted on 10/22/2005 2:44:21 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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According to Royal Navy lore on the voyage back home the sailors surreptitiously tapped the barrel in question and drank the rum his body was pickled in.

That's why they call it "Nelson's Blood."


18 posted on 10/22/2005 3:14:12 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: GVgirl
"England expects that every man will do his duty"

Imagine there's days when honor and duty are understood.

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Speaking of which, here's a cute little historical triva:

Not too long afterwards those famous words began showing up on the be-ribboned garters of daring young ladies.

19 posted on 10/22/2005 4:09:13 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: wagglebee
Rule Britannia!

-ccm

20 posted on 10/22/2005 4:33:56 PM PDT by ccmay (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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