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| October 22, 2005
Posted on 10/22/2005 9:19:11 AM PDT by Calpernia
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To: Calpernia
For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.Guilt by association, also known as the "bad company fallacy" or the "company that you keep fallacy," is the logical fallacy of claiming that something must be false because of the people or organizations who support it.
To: ez
Yeah, and out of that list, which are still sitting Senators?
Those Ayes are GOP that are still in the Senate. There may be others, I picked the names out from memory
The question I was answering was a poster wondering which of the gang of 14 had voted to confirm Ginsberg.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:19:42 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: ez
..Dude, when will you get it through your head that it's the PRESIDENTS choice, not yours..:) I could not restist this one! - in a friendly manner - "I know what you mean"... but, I don't believe this anymore! - You are righ, technically!... but in reality, who elects the president? WE DO. And we elect him because we expect him to do certain things for us. He owes,yes!. The INTERNET, the new media, has changed the old ways radically. Politicians will not get away with the things they used to. We, the interest groups, can get together as we do here, organize, and DEMAND what we want. yes, we will never get everything we want, nor I think we should!... but on VERY IMPORTANT issues, such as this one - what better example - politicians will have to put up or pay the consequences. Of course I realize we coud talk this for days :), but I am talking in very PRACTICAL terms.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:20:18 AM PDT
by
ElPatriota
(Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Me: For your information I have studied everything I can find regarding Miers. I contacted friends in Dallas who know the lady, and I also checked with lawyers who know her work. --- Glad to hear it, but in the post to which I responded you explained your support of Miers exclusively in terms of your trust in W. Seems that you are now agreeing that consulting others is valuable.
So why not at least consider the views of your fellow FReepers? If you didn't think they had any merit, you presumably wouldn't have joined FR in the first place.
I was likely fighting liberals both in the military (Nam) and politics when you were in diapers. I have also spent years in a pro-life organization as an officer. You do not represent a majority on Free Republic. Indeed, according to the polls you represent a small minority who think their posts filled with ugly rhetoric represent the majority. I'm sorry to disillusion you, but like all of the anti-Miers crowd you resort to insults and ugliness to get your way. I have posted many posts regarding Miers, and I do not need to deny my position is not based on loyalty to Bush in each one.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:20:48 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Cboldt
Yeah, and out of that list, which are still sitting Senators?Good point. I've done some research, and of the senators who voted to confirm John Marshall, every single last one of them . . . is dead ;-)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yes, I'm very malcontent with this selection. But by the same token, I have ardently supported W on a host of other issues when I felt he was right. Do you have a problem with that?
I do when you insult others and distort the truth on Free Republic as the anti-Miers crowd has done.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:23:17 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: GarySpFc
"....when you insult others and distort the truth on Free Republic as the anti-Miers crowd has done."
So being anti-Miers means you are a liar? Do you really believe that?
To: ez
And I hold you responsible for this embarrassing rift in the conservative movement. [cleaving a major poltical party in two with a single strike of his hand and several pithy posts on FR....] Muhahahaha! I am that powerful, y'know. /sarcasm>
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:26:06 AM PDT
by
bourbon
(conservatism over cronyism!)
To: Calpernia
I support the President's choice of Harriet Miers. I look forward to the hearings.After that, her nomination should be sent to the floor (with or without recommendation) for an up or down vote.
Gotta go, have a wonderful weekend, Calpernia!
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:26:55 AM PDT
by
smoothsailing
(Always drink upstream of the herd)
To: bourbon
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:27:07 AM PDT
by
ez
(Extremism, like anything, should be applied in moderation.)
To: GarySpFc; fallujah-nuker; governsleastgovernsbest
" I do when you insult others and distort the truth on Free Republic"
you mean like how you distort the truth about the KGB murderer Putin? it's no surprise that you spread the propaganda about him, when your family has had direct dealings with him:
I told you long ago Putin is a Christian. Indeed, he had my wife and a couple of others write a Bible curriculum for the schools, which he had drawn into a bill and signed into law.
8 posted on 09/06/2005 1:06:13 PM CDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:27:44 AM PDT
by
Stellar Dendrite
( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
To: GarySpFc
1. I respect your service, but sounds as if we're about the same age, for whatever that's worth. There are people of all ages on all sides of this issue.
2. As to your assertion that I "do not represent a majority on Free Republic. Indeed, according to the polls you represent a small minority," have you checked the FR poll on the home page?
"After a couple of weeks of research and intense debate, have any minds been changed? Do you approve of the president's nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court?"
No
41.6%
Yes
34.9%
Need more info
18.1%
I'm voting Hillary!
2.9%
Pass
2.5%
To: pbrown
If you think that depth, intellect, and judicial experience don't matter as long as Conservatives get consistent "Conservative" votes from the bench......Miers AIN'T IT!!!!
I have MY OWN CRITERIA!
The criteria are NOT diminished by the number or type of people disapprove of Miers for OTHER reasons.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:29:19 AM PDT
by
G Larry
(Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
To: ez
Hey, it has been fun, ez. You're a good sport.
I gotta go attend to some (ahem...) important business, like watching some college football on TV.
Take care now!
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:33:12 AM PDT
by
bourbon
(conservatism over cronyism!)
To: Calpernia
re:For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.
While not the absolute dumbest, lamest, weakest, feeblest thing I've seen posted on here in the past few years, this is definately in the top 10.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:33:45 AM PDT
by
tomakaze
(Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
To: Cboldt
"...The question I was answering was a poster wondering which of the gang of 14 had voted to confirm Ginsberg."
I'm almost certain that "Chafee (R-RI), Yea" would be the father of Lincoln Chafee of the gang of seven:
* John S. McCain III, Arizona McCain (R-AZ), Yea
* Lindsey O. Graham, South Carolina Not a Senator yet
* John Warner, Virginia Warner (R-VA), Yea
* Olympia Snowe, Maine Not a Senator yet
* Susan M. Collins, Maine Not a Senator yet
* R. Michael DeWine, Ohio Not a Senator yet
* Lincoln Chafee, Rhode Island Son of "Chafee (R-RI), Yea?"
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:34:45 AM PDT
by
fallujah-nuker
(Open Borders: The RINOcracy waging class warfare against America wage earners)
To: Calpernia
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:35:28 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Torch every dead terrorists corpse, wrap it in bacon and bury it face down feet towards Mecca)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Translation: don't confuse me with uncomfortable facts, opinions and arguments that might challenge my views and make me re-examine them. I'm going with absolute loyalty to one man."
Arms pointing forwards, eyelids wide open and endlessly chanting and moaning: "Must trust Bush, ignore Mier's PC speak, must trust Bush, ignore Mier's PC speak, must trust Bush, ignore Mier's PC speak..."
Using phrases like "diversity" has me jumping off the fence and onto the anti-Miers yard. Of course Pres. Bush has every right to fight for Mier's and I respect that but things are coming out that is a cause for concern to me.
If Miers is a bust, the solicitations of $$$ from the GOP will be returned in kind with monopoly money.
If they want to fake their "less government" platform might as well use fake money as a donation to them. Probably continue voting for the lesser of two evils though.
What a wasted two years with Repubs. in control. And please don't give me that moderate Senate crap, if Bush was as crafty and strong willed as Delay the moderates would have been of no concern. I guess Bush is just trying to please everyone and refuses to play hardball. Opportunity wasted so far, hopefully things will change.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:36:27 AM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: Calpernia
Read your last paragraph? I can't past the title. I'm embarrassed for you as I am for others--who have nothing to add to the conversation on Miers except this nonsense.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:40:29 AM PDT
by
ridge
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yes. "How much less so" is not addressed, but yes.
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posted on
10/22/2005 11:40:45 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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