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Golden Land For Finding Roman Treasure
IC Wales/Western Mail ^ | 10-21-2005 | Aled Blake

Posted on 10/21/2005 3:37:25 PM PDT by blam

Golden land for finding Roman treasure

Oct 21 2005

Aled Blake, Western Mail

MORE Roman gold is found in Britain than anywhere else - and now a Welsh academic has come up with an intriguing theory explaining why.

Thousands of gold and silver artifacts from the Roman period, especially when the conquerors finally left these islands in the 4th and 5th centuries.

Dr Peter Guest, of Cardiff University's School of History and Archaeology, is the leading expert on the biggest ever Roman gold treasure discovered in Britain. In 1992, 15,000 gold and silver coins were found at Hoxne in Suffolk in 1992.

In a lecture, Dr Guest is to propose that the large amounts of Roman gold and silver buried beneath our feet could be because something happened in the late Empire similar to the abolition of the gold standard in the 1930s.

He explained, "The Hoxne treasure is the biggest collection of gold and silver from anywhere in the world.

"A very small part of eastern England produces more gold and silver in the ground than Italy, Greece, Syria or North Africa.

"The amount deposited in the ground is substantial compared to the rest of the world. Why that is remains a mystery. Why is there so much precious metal from that particular period in Britain?"

Dr Guest explained that the gold mostly comes from a 50-year period towards the end of Roman occupation.

He said, "Before then, Britain is not very special, but in that 50-year phase, which coincides with the end of Roman control, lots of stuff is found.

"It normally consists of gold jewellery, spoons, toothpicks, thousands of coins and other items. I think connected to the fact that the Roman administration in Britain stops around 400 to 410 and the fact that the separation Britain experienced from the Roman Empire would have been so sudden.

"We had been part of the Empire for 350 years by that time, which is a very long time.

"It happened very suddenly and it might have been quite violent and one of the reasons for the huge amount of gold and silver is related to this separation.

"People weren't able to leave Britain and move somewhere else or weren't able to reuse it and recycle it and for some reason it has just stayed there." A theory already exists that people buried the treasure because of invasion from the Angles and Saxons of northern Germany.

Dr Guest said, " It is based on the Angles, Saxons and German groups coming over via the North Sea conquering eastern England, forcing all this gold and silver to be buried .

"The reason for that would have been people were being forced into slavery or killed.

"I think there is an element of truth in that but to blame the collapse of Roman gold on the Saxons is unfair. They wanted to come over here and live like the Romans, there was no point in them destroying everything.

"We need to be more careful and sophisticated in the way we approach this. The period we are looking at was known as the Dark Ages, there is very little archeological or historical evidence from the time."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; finding; godsgravesglyphs; gold; golden; hoxne; land; peterguest; roman; romanempire; suffolk; treasure

1 posted on 10/21/2005 3:37:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

"We need to be more careful and sophisticated in the way we approach this. The period we are looking at was known as the Dark Ages, there is very little archeological or historical evidence from the time."

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

2 posted on 10/21/2005 3:40:33 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Thousands of gold and silver artifacts from the Roman period, especially when the conquerors finally left these islands in the 4th and 5th centuries.

Gee, you would expect that the English could construct a sentence in English.

3 posted on 10/21/2005 3:44:32 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: blam
Rome relinquished formal government control over Brittain over 100 years BEFORE the beginning of the Dark Ages.

However, with the cessation of foreign trade (and the rise of Channel pirates), the gold and silver was simply buried because it had little internal use where direct trade was very common.

4 posted on 10/21/2005 3:51:16 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: blam

I could see paper money, such as Confederate dollars being worthless, but gold? Surely not. Of course it could have been melted down and reused if not for money but certainly jewelry, goblets, and such.


5 posted on 10/21/2005 3:51:20 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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With the departure of Roman garrisons, and the arrival of barbarians (whether from Scotland or the mainland), the people with some wealth in gold & silver most likely hid it in the ground so as to make their escape easier and reduce the chance of being robbed and killed for it. They probably planned to dig it all up after the crisis passed and Roman law returned...trouble is, it didn't happen....


6 posted on 10/21/2005 4:16:38 PM PDT by Al Simmons (http://www.mumbogumbo.com - check it out...for some great music)
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To: blam

Look for Italy to demand the return of this gold, claiming that the Brits plundered it from Rome.


7 posted on 10/21/2005 4:19:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Thanks Blam. I agree with Al Simmons. Such hoards are found near other sites (such as the Mycenaean Greek cities) which were put to the sack.

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8 posted on 10/21/2005 10:45:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Al Simmons

We have to remember the nature of life in the ancient world, especially as regards war and raiding.

Civilians were not regarded as important except as to their value as slaves--and that meant people who were in the prime of life, not toddlers, the infirm or the aged. Those that weren't enslaved were killed whenever and whereever they were found.

Who would be the logical owner of fine things and hoards of gold and silver? Then, as now, they were probably middle-aged--successful traders, nobles, and officials. These types don't necessarily have any value as slave laborers and would have been killed by barbarian raiders or armies.


9 posted on 10/22/2005 8:21:00 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: muawiyah
However, with the cessation of foreign trade (and the rise of Channel pirates), the gold and silver was simply buried because it had little internal use where direct trade was very common.

Doubtful. When Honorius withdrew the last legions from Britain, it most likely gave a green light to complete lawlessness and a general breakdown of order. The various hordes were most likely buried by those trying to prevent it from being forcibly taken. Those who buried it then most likely perished before it could before it could be recovered.
10 posted on 10/22/2005 7:15:43 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
"In 1992, 15,000 gold and silver coins were found at Hoxne in Suffolk in 1992."

I wonder what year this was supposed to have happened? :-)
11 posted on 10/24/2005 6:22:22 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof - usually by midmorning, or so.)
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