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1 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:50 AM PDT by smartin
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Hey, it's just a lifestyle choice, right? /sarcasm off


2 posted on 10/21/2005 7:36:24 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: smartin
The teenage suspect in the beating death of a prominent lawyer's wife was described by classmates as a "gothic" loner who followed the occult and dressed in black from the polish on his fingernails to his trench coat.

And we learned nothing from Columbine? Not that there was anything much to do with this kid. Do we know were the parents are?

4 posted on 10/21/2005 7:37:47 AM PDT by pa mom
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Gee, if only he hadn't participated in Halloween nights when he was a child...
/sarc
9 posted on 10/21/2005 7:46:09 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: smartin

There's a recent Supreme Court ruling pertaining to this sort of thing, that needs to be revisited.


12 posted on 10/21/2005 7:48:01 AM PDT by Redbob
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His attorney will claim kids at school picked on him so it's not his fault.


14 posted on 10/21/2005 7:48:50 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: smartin
The suspect:

18 posted on 10/21/2005 7:51:34 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (No time for taglines... it's Friday!)
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To: smartin
Any pics of his mother, the long-distance healer?

Someone claimed the guy is a "loner" while an article points out that he was part of a large group. Several times I've seen the term loner used when the perp appeared to be anything but.

29 posted on 10/21/2005 7:57:36 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: smartin

Goth is one of the dumbest subcultures around. That said, I doubt being goth had anything to do with this guy killing a woman.


33 posted on 10/21/2005 8:00:50 AM PDT by Junior_G
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I for the record protest that they protect the perpetrator.


51 posted on 10/21/2005 8:26:32 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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Thanks for the update. What a story - odder every day. I think there is more to the story. What is the connection of DH to this family? (I'm NOT saying DH is behind the killing.) Was this motivated by revenge? Is this family connected to someone else (for example, the Lynch fellow)? A "rage" killing over credit card fraud is a bit over the top. Also, the carving on the back is odd if this killing simply occurred due to the fact that she caught him in the mail box. Usually, the "initiation" killings are planned for that purpose, they're not an afterthought. I wonder if he was on meth at the time of the killing.


56 posted on 10/21/2005 8:36:13 AM PDT by drjulie
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61 posted on 10/21/2005 8:42:03 AM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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This is not about Goths. Some people are just born bad. Goths, drugs or booze aren't a factor. These people are everywhere, even in churches. Dennis Rader was an upstanding member of the Christian community. He was also the BTK serial killer.
If we attach blame to the Goths, we are also to blame for Dennis Rader.
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70 posted on 10/21/2005 8:53:09 AM PDT by Joe Beerman
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William Bonnie, AKA Billy the Kid, didn't blend either.


72 posted on 10/21/2005 8:53:46 AM PDT by devane617
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Former classmates told The Associated Press that the teenager drew a pentagram on the ground at school, telling other students he was reading from the book of Satan.

Homeschool ping.

112 posted on 10/21/2005 9:46:28 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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Sounds like he lived with his hippie mother, a "long-distance healer", in a commune situation out in LaLa Land. Then they wonder why the teens go weird.


114 posted on 10/21/2005 9:48:20 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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A gothic cross was carved into her back. That symbol may be a key link to the suspect.

A subset of "Goths" is "Emo's". Emo's are "emotionals" -- people who cut themselves. Something's very wrong with our cultural incentives...

124 posted on 10/21/2005 10:02:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (The enemy is never tired, never sated, never content with yesterday's brutality. -- President Bush)
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like, he definitely didn't blend in."

Like wow.

I went to HS with a kid who thumbed through still images of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre in class every day. No teacher ever talked to him, as far as I know.

Shortly after HS I saw him on his bike dressed in black leather picking up jr. high girls in front of the pizza place.

And the last time I looked he was a Hollywood producer.

151 posted on 10/21/2005 10:56:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: smartin

What is this "goth" crap?


185 posted on 10/21/2005 12:13:51 PM PDT by RWCon
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To: smartin

A shame the young man had no parents, or anybody else who gave a crap about him. But oh well - - hope he dies in prison after a few years of being a boy-toy for the sodomites.


240 posted on 10/21/2005 5:20:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I've read some of the 239 posts and am most interested in the ones commenting on family.

I can tell you this. Kids need the protection of the law. And if I were in charge the law would be this: 1. married but childless can divorce. 2. married with children cannot divorce until the youngest child reaches age of majority. 3. adultry is horrible, working on a punishment for that. In summary, those with kids better find a way to make the marriage work.

I came from a broken home. A broken home implies sick children. I turned out ok. But it was a long nasty journey to ok. The lousy things lousy parents do messes with the minds of children at the deepest levels that can't even be talked about. Crazy children are made that way by their parents. Chemical or physical problems notwithstanding.

241 posted on 10/21/2005 5:32:48 PM PDT by Jason_b
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