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Mother accused of dumping children in Calif. bay
Reuters ^ | Oct 20, 2005

Posted on 10/21/2005 7:33:43 AM PDT by Chazski

"These are senseless inexplicable things that are beyond the pale of imagination," San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom told reporters at the waterfront where the crime occurred. "It makes you, frankly, sick to your stomach to think you live in a society where things like this could have happened."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mayorgavinnewsom; sanfrancisco
In the Reuters report, Mother Accused of Dumping Children in Calif. Bay, 10-20-5, Reuters quotes San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom as saying, "It makes you, frankly, sick to your stomach to think you live in a society where things like this could have happened." In other words, OURS is a society "where things like this could have happened." Of course, Mayor Newsom doesn’t explain how society has anything to do with a schizophrenic woman who has gone off her medicine murdering her children in a psychotic fit. But if society is to blame, it has long been noted that San Francisco society is a step (or two) apart from mainstream American society, and, since the mother was a resident of San Francisco, it would be San Francisco society that Mayor Newsom should be sick about. But then there is the question - which apparently hasn't occurred to the honorable Mayor Newsom - exactly what kind of society might there be in which a schizophrenic woman who has gone off her medicine can't murder her children in a psychotic fit? One thing for sure, it certainly isn't a free society.

Perhaps Lucia Newman of CNN has a suggestion for the answer. In her report about preparations for hurricane Wilma she describes how, "On every block, there's a person assigned to take a census on who is being evacuated to which shelter, with special attention paid to the elderly and pregnant women." It sounds pretty good for hurricane preparations, but what she fails to mention is that that person takes that same census every day - in fact all day every day - whether there's a hurricane or not, and if you live on his block, he had better know where you are and what you're doing at all times. It’s called population control. While Newman mentions that there is “total, political and economic control”, she fails to mention that there is also total (and absolute) population control. So maybe in that society a schizophrenic woman who has gone off her medicine can't murder her children in a psychotic fit. Maybe. And maybe not. But maybe at least that society would be more to Mayor Newsom's liking. Oh yes. Lucia Newman was reporting from Havana, Cuba.

1 posted on 10/21/2005 7:33:43 AM PDT by Chazski
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To: Chazski

How come the voices never say be good, go to work or help your fellow man.


2 posted on 10/21/2005 7:37:24 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
How come the voices never say be good, go to work or help your fellow man.

They do.

That isn't front page news, however.

3 posted on 10/21/2005 7:39:39 AM PDT by Glenn (What I've dared, I've willed; and what I've willed, I'll do!)
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To: Glenn

The voices come from a destructive (self or others) part of the brain.


4 posted on 10/21/2005 7:42:44 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: edcoil
How come the voices never say be good, go to work or help your fellow man.

They do.

5 posted on 10/21/2005 7:58:22 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: edcoil

Another Susan Smith?


6 posted on 10/21/2005 7:58:30 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Chazski

I saw a little report about this on CNN last night. The headline they put up behind the commentator was "Tragic Drowning", which, while technically true, still struck me as an odd choice of words.


7 posted on 10/21/2005 8:04:15 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Chazski
"These are senseless inexplicable things that are beyond the pale of imagination,"

Kind of ironic, coming from him.

8 posted on 10/21/2005 8:17:26 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: edcoil
"It makes you, frankly, sick to your stomach to think you live in a society where things like this could have happened."

Let's see...depraved San Francisco has no problem proselytizing the destruction of children through the heinous act of abortion, supporting the fudge-packing sodomites of NAMBLA, and exposing youth to unimaginable wretch and filth - yet their tummies get turned when someone does equally despicable acts? Go figure...
9 posted on 10/21/2005 8:43:04 AM PDT by politicket (Our Supreme Court just destroyed our land...any Patrick Henry's out there?)
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To: Chazski

Wait, wait; don't tell me. Mother is unwed with three kids by three different men. Was pregnant at 15. Has been on welfare her whole life. Yes?


10 posted on 10/21/2005 8:54:58 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Glenn
No they don't. I have lived with a schizophrenic for over 20 years, my brother. I have been around others over the years. My brother, for the most part, is a "happy-go-lucky" schizo,but that is rare. A great number of schizophrenics are tormented by voices or thoughts that attack them, that urge them to harm themselves or others. That is a defining characteristic of the mental disease. I have never met a schizophrenic who heard voices telling him, "your such a good guy." no it's "your a piece of s---".
11 posted on 10/21/2005 9:03:05 AM PDT by ethical
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Newsom wrings his hands as he claims that he doesn't understand why the murderer didn't just drop her children off at one of the 43 Firehouses where no questions would be asked..

Duh!

When you create a culture where it is acceptable to just discard your children for no reason whatsoever why would you be surprised when people start tossing them in the Bay?


12 posted on 10/21/2005 9:04:43 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: pabianice
Wait, wait; don't tell me. Mother is unwed with three kids by three different men. Was pregnant at 15. Has been on welfare her whole life. Yes?

Pretty close, two different fathers and the first one at 17, and yes, lives in a shelter.

13 posted on 10/21/2005 9:07:33 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: politicket
Let's see...depraved San Francisco has no problem proselytizing the destruction of children through the heinous act of abortion, supporting the fudge-packing sodomites of NAMBLA, and exposing youth to unimaginable wretch and filth - yet their tummies get turned when someone does equally despicable acts? Go figure...

The woman was a head-case who'd been in a homeless shelter and gone off her meds. So let's add that into your list: why was she allowed to keep these kids under those conditions? Those are the sort of folks who used to be put into asylums, until it became "mean" to do such things. And yet, had she been institutionalized: a) she'd be taken care of; b) she wouldn't have gotten knocked up even once, much less three times; and c) we wouldn't be reading about this "senseless" tragedy.

But, alas, it's not "senseless" at all -- actions have consequences; and misplaced "compassion" often leads to innocents being harmed.

14 posted on 10/21/2005 9:19:35 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Chazski

"It makes you, frankly, sick to your stomach to think you live in a society where things like this could have happened."
Kind of like ''gay'' marriage''.


15 posted on 10/21/2005 9:24:30 AM PDT by KarinG1
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To: politicket

knew it would be said within the first ten replies


16 posted on 10/21/2005 9:25:57 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: Chazski

What I find most disturbing is the schizophrenic mothers family said the "government system" failed her!!!

Failed her! What about the family failing those three kids?!! What about the families responsibility, knowing she is schizophrenic and they SHOULD HAVE TAKEN GUARDIANSHIP OVER HER and forced her to have her tubes tied so she wouldn't have been able to have three, THREE children in the first place or even kept them in her custody! It wasn't and isn't the governemnts responsibility to monitor every individual movements behind closed doors or in front of open doors. Her family is negligent in allowing her to be reproductive AND left her in charge of caring for three children. That entire family is nuts.


17 posted on 10/22/2005 6:13:34 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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