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Mark Steyn: The death of Mother Russia
The Spectator (U.K.) ^
| 10/22/05
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 10/20/2005 6:18:16 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:04:35 AM PDT
by
chilepepper
(The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
To: LizardQueen
We have several Russian families in my subdivision ... 3-5 children each, some with grandparents at home, and the parents have tech-industry jobs. Aside from one old guy who doesn't speak English and gets drunk in his garage, they're good neighbors.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:05:37 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Neither the depth of despondency nor the height of euphoria tells you how long either will last. ")
To: Pokey78
23
posted on
10/20/2005 7:06:19 AM PDT
by
Gritty
("Today’s Russia is a crisis wrapped in a disaster inside a catastrophe - Mark Steyn)
To: NCSteve
It was a poultry complaint but indicative of a retreat into old-school Kremlin paranoia. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:06:28 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Neither the depth of despondency nor the height of euphoria tells you how long either will last. ")
To: Pokey78
To: wideawake
It's pathetic that a country with such vast natural wealth and such an enormous reserve of brainpower is a complete and total basketcase. All due to that left turn that Russia took in November 1917.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:08:16 AM PDT
by
bassmaner
(Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
To: Tax-chick
Yes, I noticed that. It was positively Shakespearean.
27
posted on
10/20/2005 7:10:18 AM PDT
by
NCSteve
To: MEG33
I have been depressed at his forecasts for old European nations (e.g. France, Germany, Spain, Italy). Now I am doubly depressed.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:12:15 AM PDT
by
Tennessean4Bush
(An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
To: TR Jeffersonian
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:13:11 AM PDT
by
kalee
To: NCSteve
I wonder how many of our NC public school students would even realize that was a pun? Did you see the article on the latest reading test results?
Imagine not being able to understand Mark Steyn ... what a BORE life would be!
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:13:36 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Neither the depth of despondency nor the height of euphoria tells you how long either will last. ")
To: Pokey78
"Thats the danger for America that most of what Russia has to trade is likely to be damaging to US interests. In its death throes, it could bequeath the world several new Muslim nations, a nuclear Middle East and a stronger China."
Thanks for the ping, Pokey...that got my day off to a lovely start...NOT! ;)
Cripes. One MORE thing to keep me up nights thinking about, LOL!
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:15:23 AM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Pokey78
Even the otherwise perplexing enthusiasm of the western Left for the jihads misogynist homophobe theocrats is best understood as a latterday variation on the Hitler/Stalin pact.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:15:51 AM PDT
by
aculeus
To: redgolum
Russia is mearly leading the charge off the cliff. The EU, and then the rest of the West, will be following along shortly.
And when they all go off the cliff, who will be there to fill the vacuum? Islamo-fascists. Damn, they're worse than cockroaches.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:30:10 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
To: tom paine 2
Nothing new under the sun, bro.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:32:50 AM PDT
by
SquirrelKing
(I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
To: Tax-chick; NCSteve
*Groan*... could that joke have been any more fowl?
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:33:24 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
("Stare decisis" means every bad decision a court ever made is perpetually binding)
To: SquirrelKing
And we never learn from history.
To: thoughtomator
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:41:37 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Neither the depth of despondency nor the height of euphoria tells you how long either will last. ")
To: wideawake
From the Treaty of Vienna until today Russia has had every opportunity imaginable to become a fabulously wealthy, vibrantly successful nation. Russia is a strange and complex culture which is not much focused on material success as the Western countries are. It is a synthesis of disparate elements - remote Slavic, Germanic and Siberian tribes, Greek Byzantine spirituality, Mongol/Chinese statecraft, the science and technology of Protestant Enlightenment, the extreme radicalism of Western Europe and Orthodox Christian revival. The synthesis was and is being done in the center of Eurasian chaotic landmass.
Von Metternich said: "Russia is never as strong as she appears, and never as weak as she appears."
That is why the great conquerors like Napoleon and Hitler lost their lost everything in attempt to conquer weak Russia, at the same small and weak nations nations like Finland managed to defeat the overwhelming Russian power.
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posted on
10/20/2005 7:47:33 AM PDT
by
A. Pole
(Lord Palmerston: "Nations had no permanent enemies or allies only permanent interests")
To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping.
This is a disturbing article.
To: wideawake; lizol; Vorthax; Polak z Polski; Grzegorz 246; Lukasz; JoAnka; warsaw44; ...
From the Treaty of Vienna until today Russia has had every opportunity imaginable to become a fabulously wealthy, vibrantly successful nation. Russia is a strange and complex culture which is not much focused on material success as the Western countries are. It is a synthesis of disparate elements - remote Slavic, Germanic and Siberian tribes, Greek Byzantine spirituality, Mongol/Chinese statecraft, the science and technology of Protestant Enlightenment, the extreme radicalism of Western Europe and Orthodox Christian revival. The synthesis was and is being done in the center of Eurasian chaotic landmass. This being done with centralized government and wild anarchy and freedom outside of the center. Russia absorbed countless tribes and nationalities while preserving their languages and virtual autonomy.
Von Metternich said: "Russia is never as strong as she appears, and never as weak as she appears."
That is why the great conquerors like Napoleon and Hitler lost their lost everything in attempt to conquer weak Russia, at the same small and weak nations nations like Finland managed to defeat the overwhelming Russian power.
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:09:20 AM PDT
by
A. Pole
(Lord Palmerston: "Nations had no permanent enemies or allies only permanent interests")
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