Mark Steyn: The death of Mother Russia

The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 10/22/05 | Mark Steyn

[kaiser80]

As I said, 100.000 is a figure refering to POW's taken, 16.000-18.000 is a number of those who DIED. They weren't murdered, they died because of common, at that time, deadly flu and other diseases.

What you write is a soviet era propaganda, sad it's common in Russia.

I say it again 100.000 is a wrong figure.

Give some credible sources if you are so god damn sure what you are claiming.

[kaiser80]

I can give you a clue where to look.

Giennadij F. Matwiejew, profesor of the Moscow University of Lomonosov (sorry for the translation) says that there were 170.000 POWs. To Russia returned in 1921 only 65.000. Because of that there was a suspition that the rest died. According to Mr. Mtwiejew and many other historians as prof. Karpus from those 170.000-200.000 POWs only 16-18000 died. DIED. Not 100.000!!

[RusIvan]

As I said, 100.000 is a figure refering to POW's taken, 16.000-18.000 is a number of those who DIED. They weren't murdered, they died because of common, at that time, deadly flu and other diseases.==

Even if I accept your number anyways it means that deathes of POWs was started in Poland first. Maybe you think that if they wasn't murdered directly but died by hunger or deceases that it changed matters? I don't think so.

Just think about WW2. During WW2 about 3 millions of soviet POWs was died in german camps.
Same way germans may tell today they wasn't shot but died by hunger or deceases which is accually true. Germans indeed didn't shoot all this much of soveit POWs but simple they created unbearable conditions in thier camps and the result we have- 3 millions of dead soviet POWs.

Stalin went direct way. He simply let all polish soldiers go and ordered the execution of all captured polish officers. SO no more POW camps and dying in there. All who may die there, were shot.

For you since you are pole maybe Stalin direct action is most evil comparing with polish or german camps indirect actions or inactions which anyways caused dyings POWs. But for me nevertheless deathes are deathes.