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Body Frozen in Glacier May Be WWII Airman
FoxNews.com ^ | Wednesday, October 19, 2005 | APee

Posted on 10/19/2005 3:08:03 PM PDT by MikefromOhio

FRESNO, Calif. — Two climbers on a Sierra Nevada (search) glacier discovered an ice-encased body believed to be that of an airman whose plane crashed in 1942.

The man was wearing a World War II-era (search) U.S. Army Corps parachute when his frozen head, shoulder and arm were spotted on 13,710-foot Mount Mendel (search) in Kings Canyon National Park, park spokeswoman Alex Picavet said Wednesday.

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"We're not going to go fast," she said. "We want to preserve him as much as possible. He's the serviceman may have been part of the crew of an AT-7 navigational training plane that crashed on Nov. 18, 1942. The wreckage and four bodies were found in 1947 by a climber.

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To: Clock King

Well it's a good bet that technology one day will be able to repair a human body cell by cell.

Someone with enough money could theoretically put money asside to maintain the security of keeping their body in constant deep freeze.

A large sum would also be put asside to be released to the first team to successfully revive the person.

To prevent some amateur from prematurely attempting to revive the "patient" for the money, a rule could be put in place that no team is to be allowed to claim the money until they have revived a number of people already, or somehow shown they can do the proceedure.

Given all the above I think eventually the person will be revived. But it could rely on the political and economic situation remaining stable for centuries.


61 posted on 10/19/2005 4:54:22 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: Heyworth

Why is it we are able to find all these crashed airplanes but not the crashed UFO's?

Cool pics heyworth.

A lot of these crashed ww2 planes have been restored to flying condition. There were several p38's in the ice in greenland and I think at least a few were recovered.

Darrel Greenamyer found a B 29, I think in greenland, and after a year of hard work got it to operating condition and was ready to fly out when a piece of equipment left in the plane started it on fire and destroyed it. How do you say dissappointment?


62 posted on 10/19/2005 4:56:13 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: MikeinIraq
I wonder how the plane got down there among all those trees somewhat intact...

Probably just fell straight down. Apparently it broke up in a storm. That seems hard to believe, given how much punishment they could take, but that's the official version. Eight crew bailed out safely. Only the pilot died.

Here's a link to the story:

http://www.aerovintage.com/02047.htm

63 posted on 10/19/2005 4:58:22 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: MikeinIraq

64 posted on 10/19/2005 5:41:29 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Free the Crevo Three!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; All
Excuse me?
This was probably a young man doing his bit to end fascism and stop Imperial Japan. I sorry to see the FReepdom find humor here. This fellow deserves better. God Bless Him and Those who mourned his death.
65 posted on 10/19/2005 5:59:07 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: investigateworld

Well, bless your sensitive heart.


66 posted on 10/19/2005 6:02:37 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The airman is from 1942 (probably), and even THEY knew that clouds contain rocks, generally large rocks known as mountains.

The cumulo-granite formation.
67 posted on 10/19/2005 6:09:46 PM PDT by Nachoman
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To: Jimmy Valentine; MikeinIraq
really, you two are sounding like someone over at the DUmpster.
I know they gloated and found humor when those Blackwell contractor bodies were disrespected.
68 posted on 10/19/2005 6:09:51 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Heyworth
Ah, any thought that maybe the trees have grown since the bomber pancaked in?

Just a thought.

69 posted on 10/19/2005 6:10:20 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
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To: investigateworld
really, you two are sounding like someone over at the DUmpster.

I think you need to reconsider pulling me into this little hissy fit you are having......seriously....
70 posted on 10/19/2005 6:11:47 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: Redleg Duke
She apparently went into a spin, broke up, and went straight in. Here's a more detailed version of the crash:

"Then, after 45 minutes of flight, the flight indicators all ceased working.  With the vacuum pumps having problems (but still working), and the pitot tube heat being turned on, no clear cause could be determined for this difficulty.  So the pilot and co-pilot decided to head back to Reno.  Throttling up the engine RPM to climb to 18,000 feet, the aircraft pulled to right.  The flight crew, trying to hold the B-17 in a straight line of flight, cut the engine power to try again.  After a more successfully attempt, the pilot and co-pilot realized they were having serious troubles controlling the airplane the pilot ordered the crew to don parachutes as a precaution, and be ready to bail out of the ailing aircraft.  With their bank-and-turn instrument being the only functioning guide,  the aircraft seemed to be handling fine.  Then, the nose rose slightly, the pilot compensated by pushed the controls downward.  Lt. Walker, attempting to level off the aircraft's descent, realized that flight controls had been lost.  He attempted to pull the controls back to regain attitude, but the aircraft then rolled over onto its back, righted itself for a brief moment, and then plummeted into a spin.

Knowing now that abandoning the aircraft was necessary, the flight crew starting bailing out the airplane.  One crewman, Corporal Sterling Isom, with thrown through the glass of a gunner's turret into the air.  Another crewman, Private Alden H. Stookey, was ripped out through a big hole in the fuselage.  Several other crewmen managed to escape when the tail section of the plane was sheared off by the excessive stresses of the spin.  When the flight crew opened their hatch to escape, the flight engineer, Staff Sergeant Eugene M Clemens, was also thrown from the plane and had his jacket blown off of him.   Lt. Mode escaped the disaster, and and as he drifted downward witnessed debris from the aircraft falling around him for several minutes.  Of the nine-person crew, eight survived.  Only the plane's pilot failed to escape.  His ordering the crew to wear their parachutes saved their lives.  However, his parachute was found draped on a fence post near the crash site."  

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Sierras_B-17C_crash_site.htm

71 posted on 10/19/2005 6:37:13 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: MikeinIraq

Thanks for the news.

Great to hear he has been found and will now probably get a proper burial, maybe with honors.


72 posted on 10/19/2005 7:42:18 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: MikeinIraq

Captain America?


73 posted on 10/19/2005 7:45:31 PM PDT by semaj (qu)
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To: bobdsmith

If you are interested in fantasies about reviving frozen people, suggest you rent Ice Man with Timothy Hutton.


74 posted on 10/19/2005 7:47:10 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The airman is from 1942 (probably), and even THEY knew that clouds contain rocks, generally large rocks known as mountains.

The dreaded granitocumulus.

75 posted on 10/19/2005 7:58:27 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: poindexter
granitocumulus.

Rodger. Out.

And Antennacirrus. I've run into those in a simulator in AR. KSFO is tricky about that. Altitude is life.

/john

76 posted on 10/19/2005 8:05:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

"Most of them — 78,000 — are from World War II."

Where were the Cindy Sheehans of the day blaming FDR for their deaths?


77 posted on 10/19/2005 9:09:38 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Democratshavenobrains
Having babies and building airplanes and taking care of the business that the men left behind....

Rosie and her ilk did a great job. But they weren't infected with communism either...

/john

78 posted on 10/19/2005 9:18:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It just astounds me that 78,000 families back then didn't even know if their guy was dead or captured or fell off the edge of the earth. Yet they didn't cry or rant to the news media blaming it on the politicians. They just went on with their lives. We really were more mature back then.


79 posted on 10/20/2005 4:09:40 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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The C-45 was the WW II military version of the popular Beechcraft Model 18 commercial light transport. Beech built a total of 4,526 of these aircraft for the Army Air Forces between 1939 and 1945 in four versions, the AT-7 "Navigator" navigation trainer, the AT-11 "Kansan" bombing-gunnery trainer, the C-45 "Expeditor" utility transport and the F-2 for aerial photography and mapping. The AT-7 and AT-11 versions were well-known to WW II navigators and bombardiers, for most of these men received their training in these aircraft. Thousands of AAF pilot cadets also were given advanced training in twin-engine Beech airplanes.

During the early 1950s, Beech completely rebuilt 900 C-45s for the Air Force. They received new serial numbers and were designated C-45Gs and C-45Hs, remaining in service until 1963 for administrative and light cargo duties.

The aircraft on display is one of 432 rebuilt as C-45Hs. It was transferred to the U.S. Air Force Museum from the Federal Reformatory at Chillicothe, Ohio in 1966.

SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 47 ft. 8 in. Length: 34 ft. 2 in.
Height: 9 ft. 2 in. Weight: 9,300 lbs. maximum
Armament: None
Engines: Two Pratt & Whitney R-985s of 450 hp. ea.
Cost: $57,838 Serial Number: 210893

PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 219 mph. Cruising speed: 150 mph.
Range: 1,140 miles Service Ceiling: 18,200 ft.

80 posted on 10/20/2005 11:39:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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