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Jack Kemp Says Ex-Felons Should Be Able to Vote
AP ^ | 10/18/05

Posted on 10/18/2005 4:19:17 PM PDT by linkinpunk

Jack Kemp Says Ex-Felons Should Be Able to Vote

By JEFFREY McMURRAY

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) - Jack Kemp, the former Republican vice presidential candidate and HUD secretary, urged Congress on Tuesday to require states to restore voting rights for felons once they complete their sentences.

Kemp, who was Bob Dole's running mate in 1996, made the recommendation during the first in a series of hearings about the Voting Rights Act, which prohibits literacy tests, poll taxes and other infringements on minority voting.

Some key provisions of the 40-year-old law expire in 2007. One requires areas with a history of discrimination to get federal approval before changing their election laws.

Congress is expected to extend that provision for 25 years, but the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on the Constitution is trying to determine whether the law should be tweaked.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., stirred the lone moment of dissent among witnesses with his suggestion that Congress should amend the act to guarantee voting rights for ex-felons.

"It's important, if we're going to call ourselves a democracy, that everybody more or less have the right to vote," Nadler said.

Kemp quickly endorsed the idea, pointing out that minorities are disproportionately charged with felonies.

"My answer is unambiguously yes," said Kemp, a former congressman from New York, one of a handful of states that restores voting rights to criminals once they complete their prison term or probation. "It is a restriction that needs to be modified."

Former Colorado Lt. Gov. Joe Rogers, a member of a national commission on the Voting Rights Act, disagreed. He said states should be able to set their own requirements and argued that the number of felons isn't high enough to influence elections.

Besides the section requiring federal clearance for some states and localities to change their voting laws, two other key provisions are expiring in 2007. One requires foreign language assistance at the polls, and another allows for federal election observers to be used to deter intimidation of minority voters.

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KEYWORDS: felonvote; jackkemp; kempiswrong; statesrights; stupididea
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To: linkinpunk

Words fail me. This is right up there with DeLay's saying that there was not a dime that could be cut from the Federal budget on the "What are they smoking?" scale.


21 posted on 10/18/2005 4:29:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Neither the depth of despondency nor the height of euphoria tells you how long either will last. ")
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To: supercat
"If it's limited to those who have completed their entire sentence, including probation/parole, I have no problem with that. It's IMHO good to let felons know that if they walk the straight and narrow they can re-earn the rights of citizens. Next how about adjusting GCA'68."

Sounds wonderful in theory, until you realize that there are literally MILLIONS of convicted felons in the USA just dying to vote for the party promising to give them freebies and to tighten restrictions on the law's ability to deal with felons.

22 posted on 10/18/2005 4:30:52 PM PDT by Al Simmons (http://www.mumbogumbo.com - check it out...for some great music)
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To: cripplecreek

What do you mean by "active felon"?


23 posted on 10/18/2005 4:31:04 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: supercat
Agreed. What he's proposing is not the Vermont(?)-styled system wherein incarcerated felons have access to vote. If someone has paid their debt to society and is living a law-abiding life, what legitimate reason is there to deny suffrage?
24 posted on 10/18/2005 4:31:13 PM PDT by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you, but I think the "nightmare" is Democrats paying recent parolees to vote.


25 posted on 10/18/2005 4:32:17 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: linkinpunk

At the risk of sounding insensitive, here are my opinions:

1. Convicted felons should not be allowed to vote.

2. Ballots should be printed only in English.

3. Valid I.D. should be required to register and to vote.


26 posted on 10/18/2005 4:32:26 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: linkinpunk

Kemp should talk about enterprise zones. Period.


27 posted on 10/18/2005 4:32:42 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: linkinpunk

Ack! Washed up ex-vice presidential candidate warning! From either party, they're usually best forgotten.

Jack Kemp is no...uh...Geraldine Ferraro? I mean does anyone even remember who Sargent Shriver even was?

Please, Jack, your 15 minutes are over. Thank you.


28 posted on 10/18/2005 4:33:13 PM PDT by mjwise
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To: Al Simmons
Well, here is more proof that, if they live long enough, many conservatives lose their minds (see Goldwater, Barry for an earlier example).

Goldwater was a libertarian...not a conservative. Since social issues like gay 'rights' and abortion were not issues in the '64 campaign, Goldwater never had to distinguish himself from the conservative movement. Roe wasn't decided until about 9 years later...and the pro-homo movement became a big issue in the '90s.

29 posted on 10/18/2005 4:34:32 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Mrs Mark; cripplecreek
Mrs Mark: I don't know what an "ex-felon" is.

cripplecreek: I'm a former felon.......

Mrs Mark meet cripplecreek.

cripplecreek, Mrs Mark.


30 posted on 10/18/2005 4:34:40 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: linkinpunk
This is just the incremental 1st step to universal convict voting rights.
Next thing we know, Johnny Taliban will be demanding his blue finger.
31 posted on 10/18/2005 4:34:43 PM PDT by melt (Being alive is hazardous to your health.)
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To: linkinpunk

Too many helmet-rattling sacks back "in the day".


32 posted on 10/18/2005 4:35:36 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: linkinpunk
Question. How does one become an "ex"felon?

By dying? But at least you still get to vote for Rats.

33 posted on 10/18/2005 4:36:01 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: Al Simmons
Sounds wonderful in theory, until you realize that there are literally MILLIONS of convicted felons in the USA just dying to vote for the party promising to give them freebies and to tighten restrictions on the law's ability to deal with felons.

How many felons who have not learned the concept of personal responsibility manage to complete their parole without re-offending? How many felons who have managed to learn the concept of personal responsibility are going to vote Democrat?

34 posted on 10/18/2005 4:36:22 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: linkinpunk

Mr. Hemp.

Mr. Jack Hemp.

Please pick up a white courtesy phone.

Mr. Hemp. Telephone please.


35 posted on 10/18/2005 4:36:39 PM PDT by HKMk23 ("In a land of moral imbeciles, I knew I could be king." -- Aaron Tonken, Celebrity Manipulator)
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To: linkinpunk

I worked for Jack Kemp briefly in 1994 when he was considering another White House run. This is not the man I worked for.


36 posted on 10/18/2005 4:37:14 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (John Kerry Endorses Tim Kaine: "Tim Kaine was against the Death Penalty before he was for it!")
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To: cripplecreek
I'm a former felon who has a legal right to vote in Michigan. The fantasy that some people have that a felon can't wait to get out an vote democrat is pure stupidity. The last thing an active felon is interested in doing is voting.

Are you saying you never committed the felony?

Seems to me two things happen when one is convicted, one is an immediate punishment, second is the conviction goes on your "Permanent Record".

37 posted on 10/18/2005 4:37:21 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: linkinpunk
They have show disdain for the laws crafted by the people we elect, now they should be able to elect them?

I've always thought it was a mark of the respect we held for citizenship that if you serioulsy broke the rules of society you were no longer allowed to have the highest privilege a citizen can have, the vote.

Guess I was wrong.

38 posted on 10/18/2005 4:38:07 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: hole_n_one

There's something to be said for refusing to argue with stupidity.


39 posted on 10/18/2005 4:38:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: linkinpunk

If you're a felon who's been granted a pardon, does that make you an ex-felon?


40 posted on 10/18/2005 4:42:27 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Dream Ticket: Cheney/Rice '08)
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