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Are Americans Ruder Than They Used To Be?
THe Boston Channel ^ | 10/14/05

Posted on 10/14/2005 11:17:50 AM PDT by DogBarkTree

WASHINGTON -- Americans' fast-paced, high-tech existence has taken a toll on the civil in society.

From road rage in the morning commute to high decibel cell-phone conversations that ruin dinner out, men and women behaving badly has become the hallmark of a hurry-up world. An increasing informality -- flip-flops at the White House, even -- combined with self-absorbed communication gadgets and a demand for instant gratification have strained common courtesies to the breaking point.

"All of these things lead to a world with more stress, more chances for people to be rude to each other," said Peter Post, a descendent of etiquette expert Emily Post and an instructor on business manners through the Emily Post Institute in Burlington, Vt.

In some cases, the harried single parent has replaced the traditional nuclear family and there's little time to teach the basics of polite living, let alone how to hold a knife and fork, according to Post.

A slippage in manners is obvious to many Americans. Nearly 70 percent questioned in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll said people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. The trend is noticed in large and small places alike, although more urban people report bad manners, 74 percent, then do people in rural areas, 67 percent.

Peggy Newfield, founder and president of Personal Best, said the generation that came of age in the times-a-changin' 1960s and 1970s are now parents who don't stress the importance of manners, such as opening a door for a female.

So it was no surprise to Newfield that those children wouldn't understand how impolite it was to wear flip-flops to a White House meeting with the president -- as some members of the Northwestern women's lacrosse team did in the summer.

A whopping 93 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll faulted parents for failing to teach their children well.

"Parents are very much to blame," said Newfield, whose Atlanta-based company started teaching etiquette to young people and now focuses on corporate employees. "And the media."

Sulking athletes and boorish celebrities grab the headlines while television and Hollywood often glorify crude behavior.

"It's not like the old shows 'Father Knows Best,"' said Norm Demers, 47, of Sutton, Mass. "People just copy it. How do you change it?" Demers would like to see more family friendly television but isn't holding his breath.

Nearly everyone has a story of the rude or the crude, but fewer are willing to fess up to boorish behavior themselves.

Only 13 percent in the poll would admit to making an obscene gesture while driving; only 8 percent said they had used their cell phones in a loud or annoying manner around others. But 37 percent in the survey of 1,001 adults questioned Aug. 22-23 said they had used a swear word in public.

Yvette Sienkiewicz, 41, a claims adjustor from Wilmington, Del., recalled in frustration how a bigger boy cut in front of her 8-year-old son as he waited in line to play a game at the local Chuck E. Cheese.

"It wasn't my thing to say something to the little boy," said Sienkiewicz, who remembered that the adult accompanying the child never acknowledged what he had done. In the AP-Ipsos poll, 38 percent said they have asked someone to stop behaving rudely.

More and more, manners are taught less and less.

Carole Krohn, 71, a retired school bus driver in Deer Park, Wash., said she has seen children's behavior deteriorate over the years, including one time when a boy tossed a snowball at the back of another driver's head. In this litigious society, she argued, a grown-up risks trouble correcting someone else's kid.

One solution for bad behavior "is to put a kid off in the middle of the road. Nowadays all people want to do is sue, to say you're to blame, get you fired," Krohn said.

Krohn, who often greeted students by name and with a hearty "good morning," once was asked by a child if she got tired of offering pleasantries.

Sienkiewicz, whose job requires hours in a car, said she tries to avoid rush-hour traffic because of drivers with a me-first attitude. The most common complaint about rudeness in the poll was aggressive or reckless driving, with 91 percent citing it as the most frequent discourtesy.

Margaret Hahn-Dupont, a 39-year-old law professor from Oradell, N.J., noticed that some of her students showed little respect for authority and felt free to express their discontent and demand better grades.

Close on the heels of the baby boomers are the affluent teens and young adults who have known nothing but the conveniences of computers and cell phones, devices that take them away from face-to-face encounters and can be downright annoying in a crowd.

"They got a lot of things and feel entitled to get a lot of things," said Hahn-Dupont.

Bernard F. Scanlon, 79, of Sayville, N.Y., would like to see one railroad car set aside for cell phone users to ensure peace and quiet for the rest. Amtrak has taken a stab at that by banning cell phones and other loud devices in one car of some trains, especially on chatty Northeast and West Coast routes.

But if those trains are sold out, the Quiet Car service is suspended and anything goes.

How rude.


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KEYWORDS: courtesy; manners; politeness; rude; soreloserleftards
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I commute 800 miles per week on the Garden State Parkway and New Jersey Turnpike and I am amazed that we all havent killed each other by now. People really seem to suck more latley.
1 posted on 10/14/2005 11:17:54 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: DogBarkTree

What kind of stupid headline is that??


2 posted on 10/14/2005 11:18:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: DogBarkTree

Yes, idiot! /sarc


3 posted on 10/14/2005 11:19:22 AM PDT by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest thing the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: DogBarkTree
I miss the old "in your face" attitude of old New York, rather than the superficial "politeness" that the yuppies seem to practice here in Seattle or even in Manhattan.

Then again, I'm a different breed of Cat. You also have the right to slug me if I am acting rude.

4 posted on 10/14/2005 11:20:04 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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Are Americans Ruder Than They Used To Be?


screw you and your stupid question
5 posted on 10/14/2005 11:20:26 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: DogBarkTree

HEY, you shut the hell up dummy! :P


6 posted on 10/14/2005 11:20:35 AM PDT by grizzly84
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To: DogBarkTree
Are Americans Ruder Than They Used To Be?

Hail yeah!

7 posted on 10/14/2005 11:21:22 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Sometimes I just can't see the forest for all the gumps.)
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To: DogBarkTree

SHHHHHHHHHHHH I am trying to work.


8 posted on 10/14/2005 11:21:23 AM PDT by badpacifist (dum spiro, spero)
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To: DogBarkTree
SHHHHH I am trying to work.
9 posted on 10/14/2005 11:22:03 AM PDT by badpacifist (dum spiro, spero)
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To: DogBarkTree

I'm surprised "ruder" is actually a word.


10 posted on 10/14/2005 11:22:06 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: DogBarkTree
More and more, manners are taught less and less.

The problem of redundancy has also become a problem.

11 posted on 10/14/2005 11:22:08 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DogBarkTree

I hope so!


12 posted on 10/14/2005 11:22:37 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: dead

I'm for abolishing and doing away with redundancy.


13 posted on 10/14/2005 11:22:49 AM PDT by LanPB01
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A slippage in manners is obvious to many Americans. Nearly 70 percent questioned in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll said people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago.

But have people ever not said that?

14 posted on 10/14/2005 11:23:01 AM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: DogBarkTree
A whopping 93 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll faulted parents for failing to teach their children well.

Aren't most of the rude kids today born to parents who grew up in the late 60's?

15 posted on 10/14/2005 11:23:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: OB1kNOb

"Are Americans Ruder Than They Used To Be?"


It probably just seems that way in Arkansas because of the Yankees moving in to get jobs with Walmart. :)


16 posted on 10/14/2005 11:23:47 AM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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Nearly 70 percent questioned in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll said people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago.

I think in every nation around the globe people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago.

Oh, and by the way ....$%^% !@#@@@ (&*^%^^^ $%#$%^ )itch!

17 posted on 10/14/2005 11:24:01 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: 1Old Pro

TEACH, YOUR CHILDREN WELL...... aren't these lyrics to a Crosby Stilss Nash song?


18 posted on 10/14/2005 11:24:44 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DogBarkTree
Are Americans Ruder Than They Used To Be?

[looking around on the other threads]

This is a trick question, yes?

:-D )))

19 posted on 10/14/2005 11:25:06 AM PDT by RichInOC (Harriet Miers has the kind of legal career that Ann Coulter can only dream of.)
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To: LanPB01

That would make things more better.


20 posted on 10/14/2005 11:25:30 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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