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NYP: DID THE RIGHT PINTER WIN? - The playwright or the Anti-American?
New York Post ^ | October 14, 2005 | Editorial (full text)

Posted on 10/14/2005 5:31:49 AM PDT by OESY

Edited on 10/14/2005 9:08:46 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

In selecting British playwright Harold Pinter for this year's Nobel Prize for Literature, the Swedish Academy did something unusual

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; antiwar; literature; nobel; pinter; swedishacademy
Seems the Swedish Academy spawned an adjective to describe their deed: Carteresque -- by their own hand, they have devalued their prize franchise.
1 posted on 10/14/2005 5:32:00 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Handing out awards as a political statement is such a fraud.


2 posted on 10/14/2005 5:33:37 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: OESY

Why don't they stop being hypocritical and just open up an award class for best American bashing of the year and be honest about it?


3 posted on 10/14/2005 5:42:06 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

Like, uhm, dudes, who cares?

Ya ever tried to read any of Pinter's stuff? It's the modern art of modern literature... Sort of "Piss-Christ" on paper, if you get my drift.






4 posted on 10/14/2005 5:53:18 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: OESY

With Pinter, the Academy gets a "twofer" -- he's a Communist AND gay.


5 posted on 10/14/2005 6:00:30 AM PDT by Alouette (Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
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To: OESY
in this year's science-oriented awards, six Americans (and two Australians) largely swept the field, as usual.

Not to mention the Israeli.

6 posted on 10/14/2005 6:01:21 AM PDT by Alouette (Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
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To: lOKKI
While I don't usually like to quote from El Guardian, we agree on this bit: (For the impatient, just read the part I've bolded-

"They say that a prophet is not without honour, save in his own country. The same is often true of writers.

This weekend the 75th birthday of Britain's most famous living dramatist, Harold Pinter, is being marked by a star-studded, three-day celebration ... not in London, but at the Gate theatre, Dublin. "A man of 75," says Pinter ruefully, "needs a bit of affection and it's nice it's coming from Dublin."

Meanwhile in his native land the only visible - or audible - mark of the birthday is the premiere on BBC Radio 3 on Monday night of a stunning new work, Voices: a collaborative venture between Pinter and composer James Clarke that deals with man's inhumanity to man.

For the rest the British theatre seems to have adopted Alan Bennett's cheeky suggestion, on the occasion of Pinter's 50th birthday, that the best way to commemorate it would be with a two-minute silence.

7 posted on 10/14/2005 6:01:29 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: OESY
The backroom deal in Sweden:

"Who shall we give Literature to?"
"How about that British chap, Pinter?"
"Why do say that?"
"He's stupendously anti-American, you know."
"Very well, we give it to Pointer."
"Pinter. But we need a reason."
"Hmmmmm"
"Hmmmmmmmm. How about, we say it's because of his plays?"
"He writes plays?"
"So I've heard."
"All right then. Literature is done. How about Physics? Who for Physics?"

8 posted on 10/14/2005 6:12:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: highlander_UW
"Why don't they stop being hypocritical and just open up an award class for best American bashing of the year and be honest about it?"

That would be the "Peace Prize."

9 posted on 10/14/2005 6:22:41 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: OESY

From the Literary Encyclopedia's article on "The Caretaker," by Pinter:

"However, Davies is eventually invited to take up the position of caretaker, but his selfish and inconsiderate behaviour towards Aston leads to his being told by him to go."

Strike "to take up the position of," and replaced with "become." Strike "his being told by him to go." and replace with "his dismissal by Aston." At least I think that's who "by him" refers to; the article mixes up pronouns, also.

It's so poorly written, I would believe the author simply typed his own stream of consciousness. And this is a review of literature!


11 posted on 10/14/2005 10:49:21 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

... more to the point, it's a review of literature from a lingustic perspective. The article is chiefly an explanation of the main charaters' apparent "bumbling inarticulacy."

(How bad is the article? It uses the mouthful, "discontinuities of register" in four consectuive sentences. By that phrase, the author means an abrupt shift in speaking styles, particularly between very formal and very coarse; apparently, this is the play's primary source of humor. Yet the reviewer cannot detect his own discontinuity, or redundancy, in the very phrase, "bumbling inarticulacy." "Bumbling" is such a basal word that it comes either from onomatopoeia or a blending of "bungle" and "stumble." On the other hand, "inarticulacy" is a combination of no less than five Latin roots; Even choosing the word "articulateness" could have introduced the slighest pastoral register.)


12 posted on 10/14/2005 11:12:43 AM PDT by dangus
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To: OESY

I see a LOT of live theater (I live in a major city and am a judge for our local theater awards), and I must confess, I've never understood the accolades for Pinter. He reminds me of John Cleese's classic description of the difference between an American and an Englishman: at dinner, the American says, "Pass the salt," while the Englishman says, "Uh...pardon me, but...ah...if it wouldn't too much bother...could you, uh...perhaps...consider...taking a moment to, ah...pass the, uh...salt...this general direction. Thank you so much!" Sometimes I just want to yell at Pinter's characters, "Oh for God's sake, if you actually have anything interesting to say, would you please spit it out?! I could watch two George Kaufman plays in the time it takes you to say 'Hello!'"


13 posted on 10/14/2005 12:35:02 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: HHFi

Enjoyed your characterization. My wife and I have also seen several Pinter plays, but I must confess to not knowing his dark side -- that is, what attracted the prize committee.


14 posted on 10/14/2005 1:28:05 PM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Gee, why not Saddam Hussein? He did write a romance novel and, unlike Pinter, he needs the dough.
Pinter is a hate-mongering polemicist and a bigot, pure and simple. This award is an insult and an endorsement of terrorist violence from the Swedish academy.

They don't have a Nobel Prize in my field. If they did, however, and I happened to win, I would go to the ceremony, approach the dais at the proper time, take the microphone and tell the Academy to shove it where the sun doesn't shine. I would then go up to Pinter and spit in his lying face. It would be worth a million bucks to see the reaction. What would they do? Put me in jail? In Sweden?


15 posted on 10/14/2005 1:29:09 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: OESY

The play "My Bunion" by Pinter deserve to the Nobel Peace Prize. It was painful and was touted as "the corn on the heel of capitalism."


16 posted on 11/04/2005 11:12:05 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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