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White House warns holdouts
U.S.News.com ^ | 10/13/05 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 10/13/2005 5:47:35 PM PDT by baystaterebel

White House officials have a message for conservative Republican senators who have expressed doubt about supporting Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

The West Wing types argue that she will turn out to be just as conservative as President Bush says she is, and voting against her would be an embarrassment over the long term. This message is intended for holdouts including Sam Brownback of Kansas, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"If Miers is confirmed and she winds up being what the president says she is, Republican senators who voted against her will look quite foolish," says a GOP insider. This could cause a backlash against these legislators from conservative Bush supporters at the grass roots.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miers; scotus
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To: TontoKowalski

It's not intended to be a statement saying he will confirm, it is a statement saying that the process will go forward. It is a rebuke of David Frum and his asinine petition. IOW's Miers will get her hearing and the senate will offer consent or not. As it should be, absent the stake, the fire and the mob.


41 posted on 10/13/2005 6:19:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: baystaterebel
White House warns holdouts

This White House is infuriating. They "stick to their guns" for exactly the WRONG reasons. They cave to RINOs and Democrats - they shove conservatives' faces in it.

They pressure conservative senators to support Miers, but man don't anyone threaten the Spectre. Gimme a break.
42 posted on 10/13/2005 6:20:05 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Cicero

Oh course he does not.
If he had used this type of language with the rino's and democrats, there would be a whole lot more confirming going on.


44 posted on 10/13/2005 6:21:54 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: DoughtyOne
"What ifs" are useless.

Again what is it about Miers getting her day before the judicial committee that bothers you people so much?

What is it you are scared of?

Mind you even I still haven't made up my mind on Miers. I haven't a clue as to if I would support her or not. Right now I have read enough about her to think she may be what we are looking for. President Bush believes in her, why shouldn't I at least give the man his due and allow his nominee to be heard in committee.

All the opposition seems to be pushed by a few pundits who believe themselves important enough to control who the President nominates and who he does not.

Just what office is it these people got elected to and when was the vote? I seem to have missed it.
45 posted on 10/13/2005 6:21:56 PM PDT by baystaterebel (http://omphalosgazer.blogspot.com/)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"Are you starting a draft-Toomey movement for the primary?"

Sounds like a great idea to me!


46 posted on 10/13/2005 6:23:16 PM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: jwalsh07

Having reread the original post, I concede you are correct. The quotes were caveated with the header that they concerned the hearings. The implication is that not all of those quoted are on record as supporting her nomination (although interestingly, two staunch conservatives are already onboard).


47 posted on 10/13/2005 6:23:21 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: baystaterebel
Its getting hard to tell Ann Coulter from Alan Colmes these days.
48 posted on 10/13/2005 6:23:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I would love to see Toomey on the ticket, as to if he will run or not, is to remain to be seen....

I voted for him over Specter, and that is where Mr. Ricky got into trouble, standing up for specter....and its going to cost him now....

Alot of people I know are saying as soon as santorum is voted out of office, specter is going to step down due to his cancer....gossip right now, but its something that RINO would do...


49 posted on 10/13/2005 6:24:16 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Made in USA
Sigh.

I thought the "you should have voted for kerry" argument was retired LAST thursday, when the "you're an elitist" argument rose to prominence.
51 posted on 10/13/2005 6:26:05 PM PDT by flashbunny ("Somebody up there really screwed the pooch on this one." - Another Poster on the Miers nomination)
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To: empirekin768
It's just a question of how much you lose and under what circumstances.

Put it all on the line. Let all her opponents destroy themselves and everything they lied to us about supporting.

52 posted on 10/13/2005 6:26:05 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Cicero
This entire situation seems to revolve around "trust'.

When President Bush was elected and then re-elected, we all thanked God for His providence in giving us someone we could ... um ... trust.
And for 5 years we have 'trusted' President Bush.

Now, however, they whom we all considered voices of Conservatism seem to be totally against 'trusting' President Bush.

I pondered this today and a curiously frightening thought came to me.

What if:
President Bush has some master plan/idea he wants to enact , but he's not sure he can get the absolute support needed to enact aforementioned plan/idea?
And what if President Bush is using a relatively safe method to smoke out the ... dare I say it? ... real conservatives and expose the CINO's?

If Harriet Miers causes this must fuss, (and personally I could care less if uncle Fred is nominated ... haven't we all said that the Constitution is simple language for the average man?), President Bush could really get a handle on just whom is Constitutional and whom is just another talking head.

the theories abound at this time and we will all be better off in a year.

The ride is, in it's special way ...

fun.

53 posted on 10/13/2005 6:26:15 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: baystaterebel

* Conservatives badly want a candidate in the mold of Scalia and Thomas (which Bush promised), whose judicial philosophy is to interpret the constitution as written.

* President Bush bypassed a rather large pool of candidates with a documented history of this judicial philosophy, in favor of one who totally lacks such a documented history.

* By doing so, president Bush has lobbed a grenade at the cohesion and morale of the Republican party.

* The history of such stealth "trust me!" candidates has been extremely poor for Republicans, and predictably sets off alarm bell visions of Souter and so on.


54 posted on 10/13/2005 6:27:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: baystaterebel

Interesting that the article mentions a message from the White House, but the body of the article has no quotes from the White House at all. Someone seems to be trying to stir up trouble amongst conservatives.


55 posted on 10/13/2005 6:27:25 PM PDT by alnick
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To: baystaterebel
"Stealth" and trying to pull one over on the opponent has all sorts of unessary baggage. Here is another example.
56 posted on 10/13/2005 6:28:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cherub05
"One man's compromise is another man's sellout."

Where is the compromise on the boarder issue? Is the compromise with Fox? Where's the compromise on spending?
Is letting congress have everything they want a compromise?
57 posted on 10/13/2005 6:28:29 PM PDT by PositiveCogins
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To: safisoft

Your sentiments are shared by millions. What the Miers defenders fail to realize, is that even if they're right they lose. They just don't get it. You defeat and humiliate the Miers opponents, you defeat yourself. It's a complete mystery to me, how any conservative would think Miers (who no one even really knows) is worth fracturing the coalition, sowing animosity in the ranks and alienating millions of your strongest supporters...all this for the possibility she might be alright. My God, if you're going to go to war with the base, make it over someone who has earned the reason for the loss and sacrifice. Not somebody who Drudge has to flash an alert that they voted for Reagan in '84.


58 posted on 10/13/2005 6:29:18 PM PDT by empirekin768
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To: cherub05

And I can't believe a newbie who signed up yesterday has nearly 100 posts.

For some reason, I'm getting the vibe that you're trolling here to stir up more controversy.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone doing this had another account from the same time period and was posting anti-miers stuff as well.


59 posted on 10/13/2005 6:29:30 PM PDT by flashbunny ("Somebody up there really screwed the pooch on this one." - Another Poster on the Miers nomination)
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