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80% of Potential SCOTUS Nominees on W's List Decline His Offer
Fox News | 10-11-05 | freedom4me

Posted on 10/11/2005 9:08:44 PM PDT by freedom4me

During the 11:00 p.m. (CST) newsbreak, Donna Fuducia reported that Karl Rove told James Dobson that 80% of the potential SCOTUS nominees on the President's list declined his offer because of they didn't want to undergo the grueling confirmation process. Perhaps this sheds new light on the reason why W chose Miers.


TOPICS: Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush43; judicialnominees; miers; nothanks; rove; scotus
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To: Pukin Dog

Looks like they should be considering men also. Who says it has to be a woman?


141 posted on 10/11/2005 9:42:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Damn the RINOS for sure! They either end their bait & switch tactics or get carpet bombed! Not one more dime from me goes to the RNC if they continue to support clueless, gutless republicrats. My last dime went to the RNC prior to the "read my lips" fiasco.


142 posted on 10/11/2005 9:42:46 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: BamaGirl

Maybe not for the people who have family skeletons that would get dragged out by the MSM and the vicious 'Rats, such as a close family member with drug or other criminal behavior, etc. In an era when practically nothing is off-limits for the character assassins, some very fine potential nominees might be unwilling to drag their families through the ordeal.


143 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:10 PM PDT by Enchante (Bill Clinton: "I did not have sex with any of the skeletons in my closet!")
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To: Spiff
I stand corrected. Sorry.
144 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:10 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: daisyscarlett


Tap dancing. ROTFLOL! I'm dying here.


145 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:29 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: All

Mathematics makes this a crushing revelation.

It does not mean there were 20% conservatives left on the list. It means there were 20% conservatives left on the list to be vetted. We don't know, and never will know, who failed vetting. It would be horribly rude to release a list of those who failed vetting. Every nanny tax violation. Ever pot smoking misdemeanor. That's a lot of lives ruined just to explain to an intense base why one of their rockstars didn't make it through.

What we see is, indeed, Miers was the most qualified available candidate. With confirmability as a major qualification, it's hard to argue with "most qualified available candidate".


146 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:32 PM PDT by Owen
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To: OldGuard1
I'm not saying that he would appoint a moderate. What I am saying is that even the people with their favorite "solid" candidates don't all agree what kind of SC Justice they will be. She is one that I have heard them urge him to consider, while others have reservations for one reason or another. The short answer is there are no "sure things" and I've heard that at the time, people didn't think of Souter as a moderate but a "sure thing" conservative based on his rulings and writings. That doesn't guarantee much either.
147 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:32 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent (H. Miers is showing more guts than the Senate)
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To: Spiff
Damn the RINOs is right. If Bush was the leader we should have, he would have come right out and explained the situation, named the offending Senators, and then declared total war against them.

Oh Good Lord .. will ya just stop with it's Bush's fault

If you have a problem with a Senator .. then go after that Senator

The President is not the Senate's babysitter

148 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:34 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Iwo Jima

That's a perspective I hadn't thought of. I agree. Thank you.


149 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:39 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Politics -- identity politics and political correctness.

That's been instilled in enough people that the Republicans continue to have to work overtime, just like they do on a bunch of other issues, to avoid being stereotyped as a bunch of old white rich male racist bigotted sexist elitist homophobic gun toting corrupt mean evil wicked right wing religious nut cases.

Bush is a politician, amongst other things.

150 posted on 10/11/2005 9:43:43 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Dobson isn't a politician, is he? I mean, I know who he is and what he does - I just don't know why anyone would consider him a politician, and I was wondering if he ran for something and I missed it...which is highly unlikely, but I've been wrong before!

You have to run for something to be a politician? Slicing it very thin today.

151 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:09 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Texas Songwriter
"I read on FR that Stevens plans to retire next March or April."

Yep, and Ginsberg is sick. (And Souter has to realize how utterly low the public opinion of him is. Perhaps, he'd throw in the towel). Opportunities may come up to have the big fight over a super liberal chair.
152 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:20 PM PDT by KingKongCobra (The "Donner Party" can just go eat themselves)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent point. We can only confirm one at at time. This is War. Go for it.


153 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:21 PM PDT by daviscupper
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To: freedom4me
I posted this possibility waay back when~~

"Have you ever considered that perhaps your preference turned down the nomination or did not pass the vetting? There are those possibilities, you know.
725 posted on 10/04/2005 9:00:16 AM PDT by daybreakcoming"

Look what they did to the Perfect Candidate Roberts...why would any self-respecting jurist put him/herself through that.

154 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:41 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Iwo Jima
That's why we strict constructionists are so outraged by this nomination and why -- flawed person that I am -- I could never imagine refusing to serve if I were ever so honored as to be called to make such a contribution.

And what if I thought you weren't qualified and came on here and beat the hell out of you, calling for you to step down without a hearing?

Harriett Miers did not refuse the call of W. We should give her a hearing.

155 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:45 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: Owen
No - I think it means that 80% of the short list that passed vetting was male.
156 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:55 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: BamaGirl

Is your Ph.D. in "CS"(from your profile page) or Logic?

I don't think you would make it past Ann Coulter or George Will without a JD from a Top Ten law school. You should just withdraw your nomination in shame.


157 posted on 10/11/2005 9:44:58 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: staytrue
"This is the demoncrats reason for being. Like what Saddam Hussein did to Kuwait, theirs is a scorched earth policy."

The Democrats' reason for being?! Why do we even need Democrats—the Republicans are doing a just-dandy job of scorched-earth opposition to a nominee. The "responsible," "conservative," "Republican" establishment has, in the past week, called Miers a sycophantic, left-wing, lesbian, schoolgirlish, idiotic, unlearned, corrupt yokel crony—and this is a churchgoing workaholic with exactly zero skeletons in her closet. G_d help a nominee with an actual history for the braying pack to savage.

In this political climate, anyone who accepts a future nomination is certifiably insane. I hope the rest of the justices stay put, because I for one don't want any lunatics appointed to the Supreme Court.

158 posted on 10/11/2005 9:45:17 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: ThePythonicCow
Not if you read the two paragraphs in front of it:

But we also talked about something else, and I think this is the first time this has been disclosed. Some of the other candidates who had been on that short list, and that many conservatives are now upset about were highly qualified individuals that had been passed over. Well, what Karl told me is that some of those individuals took themselves off that list and they would not allow their names to be considered, because the process has become so vicious and so vitriolic and so bitter, that they didn’t want to subject themselves or the members of their families to it.

So, even today, many conservatives and many of ‘em friends of mine, are being interviewed on talk shows and national television programs. And they’re saying, “Why didn’t the President appoint so-and-so? He or she would have been great. They had a wonderful judicial record. They would have been the kind of person we’ve been hoping and working and praying for to be on the Court. Well, it very well may be that those individuals didn’t want to be appointed.

159 posted on 10/11/2005 9:45:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
Why, Laura Bush!

Seriously, Bush could not afford to give the Democrats a reason to vote against a male nominee. The context would have been "A man deciding what women can do with their bodies" and all that crap.

If Miers doesn't make it or drops out, you can be sure it will be a man next time around, but probably not a white man.

160 posted on 10/11/2005 9:45:40 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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