Posted on 10/11/2005 6:47:23 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
(CNSNews.com) - The head of the FBI investigation of a suicide bombing at an Oklahoma University football game said the investigation has yielded no information tying the bomber to terrorist activities, in spite of Internet reports to the contrary.
Oklahoma University police requested FBI assistance in the investigation due to the nature of the Oct. 1 bombing outside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, which killed the bomber, student Joel Henry Hinrichs III, but apparently injured no one else.
In the week since the bombing, Internet reports have suggested that Hinrichs, a 21-year old engineering major, had ties to terrorism, including visiting the same Norman, Okla., mosque that Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S., attended. Moussaoui never boarded the planes. Instead, he was arrested, pleaded guilty to conspiring with the 19 terrorist hijackers and could eventually face the death penalty.
The Internet-based Northeast Intelligence Network (NIN) reports that "confidential sources" have reported that more bomb-making materials and "jihad materials" were found in Hinrichs' university apartment and that there is a "money trail" between Hinrichs and a radical Islamist terror cell in Norman.
Norman Police have confirmed that Hinrichs was briefly investigated days before the bombing when he tried to purchase ammonium nitrate fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate is the same chemical used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and killed 168 people.
NIN Director Douglas Hagmann declined to comment on the identity of his sources, but told Cybercast News Service that he knows "who the confidential sources are and we have faith in them because of their proximity to the investigation."
He added that his group has "verified many of their statements through other channels." Hagmann said the sources approached his group but are less willing to talk after internal pressure has threatened those who leak information to the press.
News reports have said the material used in Hinrichs' bomb is known as triacetone triperoxide (TATP) and is the same material used in the July train bombings in London. It is also the same chemical used by Richard Reid in his foiled shoe-bombing attempt in 2001. Jihadists refer to the volatile chemical as "Mother of Satan."
FBI agent Gary Johnson, who is heading the investigation from the bureau's Oklahoma City office, declined to confirm or deny that TATP was used in the bombing or was found in the subsequent search of Hinrichs' apartment.
The search lasted at least 24 hours but no information has been released concerning what investigators actually discovered -- Hagmann's confidential sources report finding TATP and "jihad materials" on his computer - because the search warrant was sealed by the Department of Justice.
When asked if NIN's reports are consistent with the FBI investigation, Johnson said, "No," then added, Well okay the stuff that's found in his apartment, I can't comment on [be]cause it's part of a search warrant that's sealed.
"As this time," he said, "there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization group or activity or activities." Johnson said the investigation is ongoing.
Hagmann said that aside from the information his website reports, the facts released by the FBI raise questions. "If this is nothing more than a lone suicide bomber," he asked, "why would [Hinrichs] do so where he did and how he did it?"
In a press conference after the bombing, Oklahoma University President David Boren said Hinrichs had "what I would call emotional difficulties in the past." He said there is "no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems."
Dr. Ronald Maris, director of the Suicide Center at the University of South Carolina, said he was reluctant to comment on the case because he did not know the details, but said that usually when people commit suicide with a bomb, there are "other motives.
"The vast majority of people either shoot themselves or hang themselves," Maris said. "Usually when there's bombings it involves other people and involves political motivation."
Various reports, including those on the NIN web site, have alleged that Hinrichs attempted to enter the stadium before detonating the bomb outside.
Johnson would not confirm whether the security guards had been interviewed regarding the purported attempt by Hinrichs to enter, but said investigators have "a really good idea" about whether he tried to gain access.
The Oklahoma City area has a history of connection to terrorism, according to author Jayna Davis. Davis wrote the book "The Third Terrorist," which argues that Murrah building bomber Timothy McVeigh had connections to Arab terrorists.
In 1989, Davis wrote, Osama bin Laden's spiritual mentor Abdul Azam spoke in Oklahoma City advocating the killing of infidels, Jews and Christians. He was joined, she said, by Khaleed Mashaal, the chief of the political arm of Hamas.
In 1995 before the Murrah building attack, Davis said bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, visited Oklahoma City.
According to the congressional report on the 9/11 attacks, Oklahoma City was also where bin Laden's chief pilot received his flight training.
That might be good to watch, although the History Channel has gone way to the left over the last few years. I think it is owned now by ABC and the NYT. (go figure). They are going to rewrite history now to suit their agenda...lol
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Not surprising, Boren jumped the shark around 1994.
Close, the History Channel is part of A&E Television Networks, a joint venture of The Hearst Corporation, ABC, Inc. and NBC Universal.
This just in: FBI confirms Irish Republican Army unconnected to terrorism.
Yeah.....Boren tipped me off that they were merely "angry and depressed."
Google Berg and Moussaoui and you'll be amazed at what you find.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/
"Not surprising, Boren jumped the shark around 1994."
Do you have any specifics?
Boren's actions are very suspicious. He appears to be acting as a handler and/or godfather for these foreign students. Someone should start digging into Boren's relationships with these people and find out his true motivations behind his actions.
"Boren's actions are very suspicious. He appears to be acting as a handler and/or godfather for these foreign students. Someone should start digging into Boren's relationships with these people and find out his true motivations behind his actions."
It appears that he has forgotten about the safety and care of the non muslim population.
He is acting like the Mayor of New Orleans at the height of the hurricane.
"OK, this is news to me -- was Berg a Muslim? I did not know this."
I pinging Phi Kap Mom to fill you in with Berg, Muslims, the Mosque and OU. It is some scary stuff.
The Jihadist connections at OU have been buried and blurred by Boron and the Oklahome media for at least a decade.
I will let Phi Kap Mom update you on Berg and his Jihadist connections.
"At this time" does not mean he isn't tied to terrorism. It takes time to link these people as I have been told, although I am sure they already know the truth.
I sure hope you are right!
That's when he suddenly left the US Senate, with a couple of years left on his term, to become the head of the University of Oklahoma. Very few politicians, especially Democrats, give up the kind of power a Senator has, unless to run for another office, and usually not even then. It's virtually unheard of for them to do so 2 years before their term expires.
As a counter example, Bob Kerry decided not to run for reelection to the US Senate from Nebraska, even though he was pretty sure to win if he had, to become President of the New School University in New York City, but he did so at the end of his second term as a Senator.
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You must have a lot more faith in them than some of the rest of us.
Question for everyone: WHY isn't the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and EXPLOSIVES the lead investigative Fed agency? What does the FBI need to worry about this simple suicide case for? A bomb was used so that falls into ATF's bailiwick but why does FBI even care?
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Well Shazzam, I'd never heard that. You're right it is most peculiar, particularly in light of the Republican challenges to the Rats for control of Congress at the time.
I am sure in a time of war the fbi has been ordered to lie. So why bother asking, when we at FR can probably get the same amount of info as they can. Probably more. I again reiterate the need for FR to fund their own investigation teams to gather info requested by the forum.
Wouldnt that be cool to compile a list of questions you would want to ask, then we send our own investigators to gather info and then report it back to FR for us to study? Im telling you , we do neat things here pulling stuff out of our @ss, if we put a little structure to it.... we could be deadly.
Dan Rather certainly thinks so. Also,with a little help from another board, a few of us Freepers knew who BTK was the night before they announced his name on the news.
I'm not surprised that the MSM is trying hard to ignore this. What I am surprised is the lack of interest by Rush, Hannity, Fox News, the NY Post, and most of the rest of the "Conservative Media". The only big player in the conservative media world who I've seen give this any attention is the Wash Times
Or he intended the TATP to be the primer.
Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil (ANFO) doesn't go off by lighting a match to it. You need a blasting cap or some other primary explosive to initiate the explosion
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