Posted on 10/11/2005 6:47:23 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
(CNSNews.com) - The head of the FBI investigation of a suicide bombing at an Oklahoma University football game said the investigation has yielded no information tying the bomber to terrorist activities, in spite of Internet reports to the contrary.
Oklahoma University police requested FBI assistance in the investigation due to the nature of the Oct. 1 bombing outside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, which killed the bomber, student Joel Henry Hinrichs III, but apparently injured no one else.
In the week since the bombing, Internet reports have suggested that Hinrichs, a 21-year old engineering major, had ties to terrorism, including visiting the same Norman, Okla., mosque that Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S., attended. Moussaoui never boarded the planes. Instead, he was arrested, pleaded guilty to conspiring with the 19 terrorist hijackers and could eventually face the death penalty.
The Internet-based Northeast Intelligence Network (NIN) reports that "confidential sources" have reported that more bomb-making materials and "jihad materials" were found in Hinrichs' university apartment and that there is a "money trail" between Hinrichs and a radical Islamist terror cell in Norman.
Norman Police have confirmed that Hinrichs was briefly investigated days before the bombing when he tried to purchase ammonium nitrate fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate is the same chemical used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and killed 168 people.
NIN Director Douglas Hagmann declined to comment on the identity of his sources, but told Cybercast News Service that he knows "who the confidential sources are and we have faith in them because of their proximity to the investigation."
He added that his group has "verified many of their statements through other channels." Hagmann said the sources approached his group but are less willing to talk after internal pressure has threatened those who leak information to the press.
News reports have said the material used in Hinrichs' bomb is known as triacetone triperoxide (TATP) and is the same material used in the July train bombings in London. It is also the same chemical used by Richard Reid in his foiled shoe-bombing attempt in 2001. Jihadists refer to the volatile chemical as "Mother of Satan."
FBI agent Gary Johnson, who is heading the investigation from the bureau's Oklahoma City office, declined to confirm or deny that TATP was used in the bombing or was found in the subsequent search of Hinrichs' apartment.
The search lasted at least 24 hours but no information has been released concerning what investigators actually discovered -- Hagmann's confidential sources report finding TATP and "jihad materials" on his computer - because the search warrant was sealed by the Department of Justice.
When asked if NIN's reports are consistent with the FBI investigation, Johnson said, "No," then added, Well okay the stuff that's found in his apartment, I can't comment on [be]cause it's part of a search warrant that's sealed.
"As this time," he said, "there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization group or activity or activities." Johnson said the investigation is ongoing.
Hagmann said that aside from the information his website reports, the facts released by the FBI raise questions. "If this is nothing more than a lone suicide bomber," he asked, "why would [Hinrichs] do so where he did and how he did it?"
In a press conference after the bombing, Oklahoma University President David Boren said Hinrichs had "what I would call emotional difficulties in the past." He said there is "no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems."
Dr. Ronald Maris, director of the Suicide Center at the University of South Carolina, said he was reluctant to comment on the case because he did not know the details, but said that usually when people commit suicide with a bomb, there are "other motives.
"The vast majority of people either shoot themselves or hang themselves," Maris said. "Usually when there's bombings it involves other people and involves political motivation."
Various reports, including those on the NIN web site, have alleged that Hinrichs attempted to enter the stadium before detonating the bomb outside.
Johnson would not confirm whether the security guards had been interviewed regarding the purported attempt by Hinrichs to enter, but said investigators have "a really good idea" about whether he tried to gain access.
The Oklahoma City area has a history of connection to terrorism, according to author Jayna Davis. Davis wrote the book "The Third Terrorist," which argues that Murrah building bomber Timothy McVeigh had connections to Arab terrorists.
In 1989, Davis wrote, Osama bin Laden's spiritual mentor Abdul Azam spoke in Oklahoma City advocating the killing of infidels, Jews and Christians. He was joined, she said, by Khaleed Mashaal, the chief of the political arm of Hamas.
In 1995 before the Murrah building attack, Davis said bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, visited Oklahoma City.
According to the congressional report on the 9/11 attacks, Oklahoma City was also where bin Laden's chief pilot received his flight training.
Excellent question, and here are some more: If this was a simple (if bizarre) suicide, then why
*did they increase security at all the highschool sporting events?
*did they install more cameras at the stadium?
*did they write to ticket holders asking if they had given tickets to others, and if so, who?
(Add your own questions here.)
C'mon, you paranoiacs, didn't we all grow a field of wheat or corn in our dorm rooms? And the cops always investigate fertilizer sales...in case you plan on making donuts with your wheat.
Well I was just taking my tinfoil off over on the UCLA bomb thread, time to put it back on it seems.
Is Haider connected with the mosque of the roommate of Joel Hinrichs
?
"Somebody is getting really dizzy from all that spinning."
If this OU story doesn't die down soon, we haven't even begun to see spin. The groundwork was laid with the CBS Eye blog repetition of the OU hit piece.
Expect more hoaxes to cloud the water.
I'm probably the only living person on the planet who hasn't seen the Jaws movies--but I agree that they'e trying (very hard) to ignore this. Bear in mind, they have done so since at least April 1995. Back then, I blamed the Clintons and their agenda to demonize "angry white males" and Rush Limbaugh--not to mention the "Brady Bunch" trying to get their anti-gun bill through--but now I am not sure who to blame. Boren for sure, but he can't pull this off on his own. Who else?
This is an excellent question: "Is Haider connected with the mosque of the roommate of Joel Hinrichs?"
I read that as a Full Confession of the Media Method of Operations.....
Depends on what you call a bomb I guess. :)
And some of us build bombs and/or other weapons for a living. I don't... anymore that is. :)
Boren sure seems to prefer terrorists (even budding terrorists) over US citizens. Out with him!
"The Oklahoma Daily, as quoted by CBS, is mostly concerned that, while "people should perceive the unfounded news broadcasts as the liars, ... that doesn't always happen."
'I read that as a Full Confession of the Media Method of Operations.....'
It may not be a full confession, but they are now on record of not calling our side the liars.
He attended the Mosque -- Boren arranged for him to be deported rather than stand trial. Moussaouri along with his friends who were arrested also attended the "religion of peace" mosque along with Berg -- are we seeing a pattern here?
I have a hard copy printed out as well. This sends shivers up my spine to be truthful. The ramifications here are huge IMHO. When I googled in Tenent and Boren connection, I felt ill.
That's how I am taking it as well -- he finds them jobs but he doesn't do the same for our local Oklahoma kids -- he needs ousted and should have been in 2002 when all this came out.
Be sure to keep computer full stories and the printed stories on what you and others expose and find.
This stuff has a habit of disappearing when the links appear on FR.
"He attended the Mosque -- Boren arranged for him to be deported rather than stand trial. Moussaouri along with his friends who were arrested also attended the "religion of peace" mosque along with Berg -- are we seeing a pattern here?"
Ernest here is the chilling answer to your question about the expelled Pakki.
The kid was a terrorist-- and I have this as evidence:
He tried to buy ammonium nitrate TWO DAYS before he accidentally blew himself up the the football game.
When he attempted to buy the AN, his bomb must have been in at least a final stage of completion, if not complete. It would take a first-time bomb maker several days if not weeks to research and complete a relatively sophisticated bomb, or to create the TATP.
This timeline implies that his bomb was probably complete or very close to it by the time he sought out the AN.
Question: Why would a guy who was only intent on committing a "spectacular" suicide, and already had his bomb ready to go, seek out additional bomb-making components?
Answer: He intended to survive this first bomb and go on to make and detonate more.
Whether he had Islamic ties is still somewhat open to debate as the evidence is allowed to emerge-- but I am almost certain that he intended to kill people with this and other bombs.
Thanks!
I think Boren is presiding over a Roach motel.....must be some big money involved....wonder what kind of money the Saudi's have sent in?
Are they funding the Football program?
I'll add:
Why did they take his roommate and his buddies away from a party in handcuffs right after it happened?
This constant lying by the goobermints is tiresome.
Then we get questionable to say the least if not the politically motivated "alert" of bloomie to bolster his reelection chances by trying to get some of Rudi's aura to rub off on him.
Constantly lying about terrorist acts, and this is now the third year, renders credibility moot, with the result people doubt the veracity of the threat.
Can't blame them.
OK, it's not terror. The FBI wouldn't lie to us, LOL!
"It may not be a full confession, but they are now on record of not calling our side the liars."
I'm thinking that the intention of referring to these so-called "unfounded" newscasts was to discredit reporting from channel 9, as well as that of anyone else who didn't maintain the embargo.
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