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Ukraine Cardinal Wants Synod With Orthodox
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 10.10.2005 | DANIELA PETROFF

Posted on 10/10/2005 2:43:04 PM PDT by lizol

Ukraine Cardinal Wants Synod With Orthodox

By DANIELA PETROFF, Associated Press Writer

VATICAN CITY - A senior Ukrainian cardinal said Monday there was little dividing the Catholic and Orthodox Christian faiths and suggested that the pope call a meeting of the world's bishops to discuss the Eastern rite within the Catholic Church.

Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, head of the Greek Catholic Church in Ukraine, made the suggestion in a speech to a three-week meeting of the world's bishops that is designed to give the pope recommendations on running the church.

Eastern rite Catholic churches share many Orthodox rituals but are loyal to the pope.

The Catholic and Orthodox churches split in 1054 over several questions, including the issue of the primacy of the pope. Relations now between the two sides have been made tense by Orthodox charges of aggressive Catholic missionary work in Eastern Europe and by property disputes.

Pope Benedict XVI has made unifying all Christians a fundamental priority of his pontificate, and he invited a record number of ecumenical representatives to take part in the Oct. 2-23 meeting, known as a synod, including one from the Russian Orthodox Church.

In his speech, Husar noted that the Catholic and Orthodox churches share fundamental beliefs about the Eucharist, which is the topic of the synod.

The Catholic Church also recognizes as valid Orthodox ordinations of priests, and both churches recognize the apostolic succession of their bishops, meaning both trace the ordination of their bishops back to Christ's 12 apostles, Husar said.

"If the mutual recognition of the apostolic succession of bishops is recognized, and consequently that of the priests who celebrate it, my question is: what else do we need for unity?" according to a summary of his remarks released by the Vatican.

"Is there perhaps another source, or another summit superior to the Eucharist?" he asked. "And if it doesn't exist, why can't we allow concelebration?"

Husar then suggested that the pope call a new synod of the world's Catholic bishops to discuss the role of the Eastern rite church, saying there was a lack of understanding among other Catholics about its role.

He suggested Orthodox clerics be included in the meeting.

In an interview with The Associated Press after his speech, Husar noted that the late Pope John Paul II had frequently said the Catholic Church "breathes with two lungs" — a reference to the Eastern and Western halves of the church.

"At the moment we do not feel that the church is breathing with these two lungs," he told the AP.

At the start of Monday's meetings, the bishops were asked to keep the victims of the South Asian earthquake in their prayers.

Several bishops also spoke of the need for the church to incorporate more local customs into the Mass. The working document of the synod warned that while useful, such attempts at including local songs and dance in the Mass, sometimes go too far and can cause "scandal" and confusion among the faithful.

But the archbishop of Abuja, Nigeria, Monsignor John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, said such "inculturation" has had a positive effect on the church in Africa, increasing participation of the faithful and promoting evangelization, and said it should not be cause for alarm.

"Solemnity and sacredness can be expressed not only in plain chant and the organ, but also by the gong, the xylophone and the tam-tam," he said, according to the Rev. John Bartunek, a synod spokesman who read from his text.

"We may not have much to offer in terms of the glorious architecture of European cathedrals or the fabulous paintings of Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci," he said. "But what we have, we are happy to give: our songs and lyrics, our drumming and rhythmic body movements, all to the glory of God."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; christianity; greekcatholic; orthodox; ukraine; uniates

1 posted on 10/10/2005 2:43:09 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 10/10/2005 2:43:58 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Can the Western and Eastern Orthodox Churches reunite? Well, if the Red Sox can win the World Series...


3 posted on 10/10/2005 2:56:50 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: marsh_of_mists; lizol

"Well, if the Red Sox can win the World Series..."

And now that the White Sox are doing so well, if this isn't a sign that the end times are near, I don't know what is!


4 posted on 10/10/2005 3:38:05 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: lizol

It maybe impossible to end 1000-year old schism in a few days, but we know that a thousand mile jorney begins with a one step. My best wishes to those who seek to end the Orthodox-Catholics Religious rift--may it be consigned to the annals of history.


5 posted on 10/10/2005 3:39:45 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: lizol
"If the mutual recognition of the apostolic succession of bishops is recognized, and consequently that of the priests who celebrate it, my question is: what else do we need for unity?"

Well, how about confessing the same faith?

6 posted on 10/10/2005 3:41:16 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know . . .)
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To: sergey1973
Doubt it will happen... they neglect to mention why the Great Schism happened in the first place, which was The Patriarch of Rome claiming preeminence amongst Patriarchs. The Orthodox Patriarchs will never agree to be subservient to the Pope, and the Pope will never agree to become "one amongst equals". Besides, it's been tried twice before, at the Second Council of Lyons and the Council of Basel, and both times the greater Orthodox religious community refused to consent to the decisions of these councils. I doubt there will ever be a Reconciliation as long as their exist practitioners of both Rites.

And before you get the idea that disparaging followers of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, I have many friends who are Eastern Orthodox (coming from the area around Scranton Pennsylvania), and some of the longest-running argument we've had is about the Great Schism... the amusing part is, whenever it comes up, it's always the other side that split from the One True Church. We simply agree to disagree, which might be the best course of action for the world at large.
7 posted on 10/10/2005 4:03:36 PM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Namyak

Nobody is talking about disparaging either Catholics or Orthodox. Religiously I'm an outsider. I'm neither Catholic, nor Orthodox. I'm not practicing any Religion. Culturally I'm Judeo-Christian who believes in invisible God and our responsibility before him.

I simply want to see a genuine reconcilliation between Catholics and Orthodox--it does not have to be reunification. Mutual recognition and respect should be enough.


8 posted on 10/10/2005 4:16:41 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: lizol

The Church of Rome has issues with the Trinity - some elements are too "democratic".

Let's hear it for the Holy Ghost!!


9 posted on 10/10/2005 5:04:04 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: SaltyJoe
And now that the White Sox are doing so well, if this isn't a sign that the end times are near, I don't know what is!

Ummm, a World Series matchup with their colleagues to the north.

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10 posted on 10/10/2005 6:43:08 PM PDT by Erasmus (A strong bow is a terrible thing to waste. Give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund.)
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