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Amniotic fluid used successfully instead of stem cells
Sun Times ^ | 10.09.05 | PAUL BASKEN

Posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:10 PM PDT by Coleus

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1 posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:12 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:49 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Hope no one opposes this...


3 posted on 10/09/2005 6:01:04 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle
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To: The Worthless Miracle
No one does.

Embryonic stem cell experimentation is ethically problematic, to say the very least.

Adult and/or umbilical cord stem cell research has no associated ethical problems, and have, in fact, been widely used in productive research.

Embryonic stem cells are not needed, nor are they deemed superior cells, for research purposes.

Why do the non-scientific political parties fight over the topic?
4 posted on 10/09/2005 6:17:56 PM PDT by sarasmom (What is the legal daily bag limit for RINOs in the USA?)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
Hope no one opposes this...

I think that's a vain hope. The Leftist agenda requires research on fetal stem cells. Never mind that most successful stem cell research has been done with cord blood or adult stem cells (from fat or bone marrow).

5 posted on 10/09/2005 6:23:34 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Coleus

Great to hear!


6 posted on 10/09/2005 6:28:47 PM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: speekinout
It is a ridiculous thought to think that nobody will oppose this option. Stem cell research will always be an issue, especially when politicians are opposing issues they are lacking information on. Much research can and is being done using other options besides aborted babies, yet this seemed to be one of Bush's concerns. It seems hard to believe that stem cell research will ever be accepted by all.
7 posted on 10/09/2005 6:30:46 PM PDT by olive oil
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To: Grannyx4

Stem cell ping


8 posted on 10/09/2005 6:33:59 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (also enjoy the occasional kick of a puppy.)
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To: Coleus

California's billion dollar statewide initiative REQUIRED that only the stem cells associated with abortions (embryonic) be used in research. In other words if other types of stem cells (adult, umbillical cord, amniotic) are just as good or even much better for research, it doesn't matter, they have to use the abortion derived cells because that's what the measure required.

Totally insane.


9 posted on 10/09/2005 6:39:56 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: The Worthless Miracle

Those that worship the murder of the unborn are sure to oppose it; while they picket to save the manatee...


10 posted on 10/09/2005 6:42:46 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Mount Athos

"other words if other types of stem cells (adult, umbillical cord, amniotic) are just as good or even much better for research, it doesn't matter, they have to use the abortion derived cells because that's what the measure required."

Sounds like a "political" decision. (as in zampolits, Lysenko, etc)


11 posted on 10/09/2005 6:45:02 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: speekinout
" The Leftist agenda requires research on fetal stem cells."

- You can bet that activists like Michael J. Fox will pay no attention to this news. They're too used to regularly plunking their butts down before various Congressional Committees to whine about Bush and how his stem cell policy has denied hope to millions.
12 posted on 10/09/2005 6:58:05 PM PDT by finnigan2 (I)
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To: Coleus

Hmmmm should amniotic fluid be saved and frozen at birth for possible later use.?. Ineresting deveolpment..


13 posted on 10/09/2005 7:15:34 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: olive oil
It seems hard to believe that stem cell research will ever be accepted by all.

I don't know what you mean by this. Almost everyone I know is perfectly happy with stem cell research using cord blood or adult stem cells (and maybe now amniotic fluid).
Fetal stem cell research is a different thing.

14 posted on 10/09/2005 8:07:07 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: finnigan2
You can bet that activists like Michael J. Fox will pay no attention to this news.

Yes. Activists are never known for their expertise, just for their passion. I forget what the exact numbers are now, but there are something like 70 conditions that adult stem cell treatments can cure, and 0 (that's zero) for fetal stem cell treatments.
And we continue to spend more money for fetal stem cell research than we do for adult stem cell research.

Passion beats common sense every day.

15 posted on 10/09/2005 8:14:35 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Berosus; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA; Cincinatus' Wife
Ping!
16 posted on 10/09/2005 8:23:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Coleus; hocndoc; cpforlife.org; LadyDoc; Romulus; logos; Calpernia; jwalsh07
Did anyone catch this falsehood: "The cells are already there in the mother's amniotic fluid." Folks, the amniotic fluid has the new life's stem cells in it. Trying to assert the fluid is 'the mother's amniotic fluid' is either the writing of a very uninformed person or an effort to lie without getting called on it! The placenta and amniotic sac are constructs by the newly conceived (in this case, a higher mammal, not human).
17 posted on 10/09/2005 8:36:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Coleus; airborne; Asphalt

Thanks for the ping!

Airborne & Asphalt ping.


18 posted on 10/09/2005 8:56:46 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: sarasmom

"Why do the non-scientific political parties fight over the topic?"

Votes and money. There is a lot of money to be made in selling aborted fetuses. Stem cells was just an enlargement of that killing plan.


19 posted on 10/09/2005 10:23:33 PM PDT by B4Ranch (3 to 5 seconds check citizen's immigration status http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/SAVE.htm)
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To: SunkenCiv

Amazing!


20 posted on 10/10/2005 12:12:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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