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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 9 October 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 9 October 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, October 9th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Texas Supreme Court Judge Nathan Hecht; Gary Bauer, president of the American Values Coalition; Dr. Steven Rosenberg, chief surgeon with the National Institutes of Health.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Pat Buchanan, former presidential candidate; Richard Land, president, Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., and Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., ranking Democrat of the committee; Mike Leavitt, secretary, Health and Human Services.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Richard Durbin, D-Ill.; Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraqi national security adviser; the Rev. Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition; Dr. David Nabarro, U.N. bird flu envoy.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
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To: cardinal4
"No one knows a thing about this nominee"

Any have a problem with people who might have a problem with this?????

321 posted on 10/09/2005 8:25:02 AM PDT by Afronaut (America is for Americans, but not anymore)
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To: altura

Well said


322 posted on 10/09/2005 8:25:06 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: OldFriend

I can't remember who made the comment about Cokie Roberts hair, but it was right on. LOL.


323 posted on 10/09/2005 8:25:12 AM PDT by Bahbah (Member of the Water Bucket Brigade)
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To: cardinal4

Well said.


324 posted on 10/09/2005 8:26:17 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: ElPatriota

I could say more, but I'll stop here :)


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It is sickening how so many people seem to think that identity politics, a subset of groupthink, is OK. It is especially sickening where we know that if perchance, Bush would nominate a clone of Thomas, the same critics would find something else to criticize the nominee for.


325 posted on 10/09/2005 8:26:33 AM PDT by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: Bahbah; All
This is my Kristol rant, which I posted on another thread yesterday. I am flat-out sick of him, as you will be able to tell.

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Bill Kristol has been busy around DC sabotaging Republicans since 1988. By writing this report, you are going to receive my full anti-Kristol rant. Back when Kristol wrote his snarky column about the China Plane Incident, in early 2001, I decided to find out more about him. Here is what I learned.

When the first Bush Administration was being formed in early 1989, Kristol could not get hired by the White House. He managed to get a position as a domestic policy advisor in Dan Quayle's office. For mysterious reasons (which I believe but cannot prove were due to Kristol's machinations) Quayle's chief of staff resigned. Kristol got the job.

It was Kristol who insisted that Quayle put the "Murphy Brown" reference in that speech (making Quayle look like a moron). It was Kristol who urged Quauyle to make a speech attacking then-President Bush about some foreign policy elements. Quayle was encouraged by Kristol to "be his own man" at the exact time that the 1992 campaign was gearing up.

James Baker would not allow Kristol in on campaign strategy meetings, because of Kristol's propensity to leak to the press. In his biography, "Standing Firm," Quayle says that Kristol was disliked by Baker because Kristol intimidated him with his intellect.

(At this point I must interject that the first time I read Quayle's book, I didn't know all of the players. Anyone who thinks Kristol intimidated Baker should not ever consider running for public office again. I also think, reading about the wonderfulness of Bill Kristol in Quayle's book, that Kristol ghost-wrote it.)

Anyway, Kristol's weaseling and general incompetence contributed to disarray in the first Bush Administration.

Now, let's move forward to more recent history. Remember back when the current President Bush was considering running? Guess who was opposed? That's right...Bill Kristol. He was so adamant that Bush couldn't win that he urged Republicans to unite behind someone who could win easily.....Colin Powell!

Powell, the very same person that Kristol excoriated as Secretary of State for four years? Why, yes indeed, the very same! It was only after Powell made it very plain that he wouldn't run that Kristol got on the McCain bandwagon.

Kristol spent most of the 2000 campaign (after McCain was defeated) trashing the Bush campaign. The President's speeches weren't good enough, he wasn't tough enough, etc. etc. During the Florida recount, he was pretty much consistently pessimistic.

There was a small window during the transition when Kristol was fairly positive. That would be the time when he thought he might get hired by the White House, I guess.

By early spring, it was obvious he wasn't going to get a job, so when the China Plane Incident happened and Powell (remember, Kristol thought he was a good choice for president) negotiated the release of the crew, which 90% of the country thought a good thing, Kristol wrote a column called "Our Profound National Humiliation." That column caused a nine-days wonder here on FR, in which many McCainiacs attacked the President because he didn't nuke China or something equally bizarre.

After things calmed down, Jeffords defected. Who was the person who had the scoop that Jeffords defected? Kristol!

I heard his interview with Brit Hume. He was absolutely gleeful that he had this news. He said he had been learning from sources that the defection was imminent.

Well, who were his sources? Only Daschle and Jeffords knew, plus one senator who was an intermediary. I therefore concluded the source was Jeffords. So Kristol knew Jeffords was going to defect, and made no effort to warn the White House.

In addition, after Jeffords jumped ship, it turned out that Jeffords was convinced that the White House was going to kill the dairy subsidy. Who told Jeffords that, because the White House said they had had no such intention, and couldn't figure out where he got the idea.

Well, when I remembered the evil grin Kristol had when he told Brit about his "scoop," I decided that the source had been Kristol, who could easily convince a dim bulb like Jeffords that he was an "insider." I think Kristol engineered that defection by telling Jeffords Bush was going to take away the dairy subsidy, and I will remain convinced of it until my dying day.

Now, here we are again with Kristol. It's not enough to disagree with the President. He has to go on NBC and ask for the nominee to withdraw her name. This doesn't have anything to do with principle; it has to do with sticking it to the President one more time.

Grampa Dave and I have been mistrustful of Kristol for years. He is the possum-person, as Grampa Dave says, and this confirms me in my utter contempt for him.

326 posted on 10/09/2005 8:26:36 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Afronaut
What will you learn about her Beliefs? Like Roberts, she will sit there and refuse to answer any questions that one would need to form any opinion of what kind of Justice she would be

I'm not sure what I will learn from Miers at the hearings .. only time will tell

But what I learned from Roberts at his hearing is that he seriously takes the role of a Justice on the USSC and that he will follow the Constitution and not make law from the bench

If a Justice follows the United States Constitution, then I have nothing to fear

Justice Ginsburg does not do that and that is why she is an activist Judge that believes she can make new law

327 posted on 10/09/2005 8:27:05 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: H.Akston

Big difference between many and all. Horowitz brings a special understand of the left that Kristol will never understand.


328 posted on 10/09/2005 8:27:26 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: sono
Kelly was right to issue the Alert. The details about 19 bombers with briefcases was rather over the top. Next they added baby strollers.

Seems to me the alert would have been satisfactory without the embellishments.

329 posted on 10/09/2005 8:28:10 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: H.Akston
I am no fan of Bork, given his 2nd Amendment and "ink blot" statements. But no Supreme Court Justice holds much sway over another's vote. They don't deliberate per se. I am worried about Ms. Miers' own "yeas and nays" -- not how she would persuade anyone else's vote, because that she will not do.

From your tagline, you seem to have a special interest in property rights. Surely you must be concerned that Ms. Miers would vote with the majority in the Kelo eminent domain case. I cannot ever see her voting to overturn Wickard v. Fillborn.

Which side of 5-4 will we be in? With a Justice Miers, I see us being on the losing side more often than not because Miers will vote with the liberal majority.
330 posted on 10/09/2005 8:28:13 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: snugs

Off to see mum back in a while


331 posted on 10/09/2005 8:28:28 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: maica
Excellent stuff here, and it does give a new insight into GW's' pick of Meirs
332 posted on 10/09/2005 8:28:49 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Miss Marple

Bill Kristol is trying to Bork Miers ... and the liberals are sitting back and laughing their rear ends off at it


333 posted on 10/09/2005 8:29:05 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Republic
Time will tell.

Yes, it will. That was the most sensible thing you posted.

334 posted on 10/09/2005 8:29:15 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: sono
Kelly was Dinkin's police commissioner during the Crown Heights riots. They just sat back and allowed the blacks to 'vent' while white people were mugged, murdered, and general mayhem ensued for three days.

Finally, to his only credit, Cuomo demanded an end to the rioting.

335 posted on 10/09/2005 8:29:49 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: Alas Babylon!
"By the time I get home, there's so many posts that it takes me untill 9:00 PM to get thru them!"

To your credit for the idea of this thread and your diligence to keep it going!

Likewise, my commitments often take me away from the thread, only to return to a ponderous read later in the evening. Sure beats watching the idiot box!

Thanks AB!
336 posted on 10/09/2005 8:29:57 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

Ken Starr gave a very enthusiastic endorsement of her a couple of days ago. He has worked with her on several legal cases and thinks she is an excellent choice.


337 posted on 10/09/2005 8:30:27 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Republic

NIce!!!!

Bookmarking your points, they are great.


338 posted on 10/09/2005 8:30:45 AM PDT by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: Rokke
What!?!?! The Sunday talking face shows are being critical of the Bush Whitehouse!?

The difference this time is that is the Conservatives who are disappointed and angry with the President.

You have to pay attention.

339 posted on 10/09/2005 8:30:48 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Bahbah
I really don't pay too much attention to Kristol these days.He is so inconsistent it's hard to follow a line of logic with him.
340 posted on 10/09/2005 8:30:56 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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