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ROBERT BORK CALLS MIERS NOMINATION "A DISASTER"
Tucker Carlson ^ | October 5, 2005 | Press Release

Posted on 10/07/2005 3:50:01 PM PDT by Sam Hill

ROBERT BORK CALLS THE HARRIET MIERS NOMINATION "A DISASTER" ON TONIGHT'S "THE SITUATION WITH TUCKER CARLSON"

SECAUCUS, NJ - October 7, 2005 - Tonight on MSNBC's "The Situation with Tucker Carlson," former judge and Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork tells Tucker Carlson the Harriet Miers' nomination is "a disaster on every level," that Miers has "no experience with constitutional law whatever" and that the nomination is a "slap in the face" to conservatives.

Following is a transcript of the conversation, which will telecast tonight at 11 p.m. (ET). A full transcript of the show will be available later tonight at www.tv.msnbc.com. "The Situation with Tucker Carlson" telecasts Monday through Friday at 11 p.m. (ET).

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bork; miers; noproof; robertbork; scotus
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To: St.Chuck
I think his pick makes perfect political sense.

No it doesn't.

President Bush's tin ear is showing.

541 posted on 10/07/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: em2vn
Would you be so cavalier about a surgeon about to operate on you?

Only if licensed ;^).

542 posted on 10/07/2005 8:08:12 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Miss Marple
Miss...

That is a shopworn argument that has been posted here a million times.It is an entirely vacant and meaningless argument. One that is proffered when republicans have nothing else to offer.

543 posted on 10/07/2005 8:08:19 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
He's not his dad so that argument doesn't hold water. When did GW raise taxes, "READ MY LIPS"?? Problem is he is his own man and you guys don't like that.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

544 posted on 10/07/2005 8:08:24 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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To: cynicom
"Nope"

OK. Prove your cleverness didn't begin and end with one post. Explain why you think being twice selected as one of this nation's top 100 most influential lawyers doesn't distinguish that lawyer from the hundreds of thousands not selected.

545 posted on 10/07/2005 8:08:30 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: ariamne
Not all lawyers are necessarily bad.

Case in point:


546 posted on 10/07/2005 8:08:58 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Rodney King

http://www.users.fast.net/~behanna/bork.html

The following is all from the link:

In a footnote on page 166, Judge Bork writes that ``the Supreme Court has consistently ruled that there is no individual right to own a firearm. The Second Amendment was designed to allow states to defend themselves against a possibly tyrannical national government. Now that the federal government has stealth bombers and nuclear weapons, it is hard to imagine what people would need to keep in the garage to serve that purpose.''

Judge Bork is in fact wrong in both logic and facts. As to logic, even if the Supreme Court had ruled as he claims, that doesn't settle the issue of constitutionality. The Supreme Court can be wrong, and indeed Judge Bork is a hero to conservatives precisely because he often criticizes the Supreme Court's rulings. By implying that Supreme Court rulings are authoritative if not infallible, he contradicts most of what he has argued throughout his juristic career.

But second, as to facts, he is also wrong that the court ``has consistently ruled that there is no individual right to own a firearm.'' The Oxford Companion to the Supreme Court, a standard reference work on the court and its rulings that really is authoritative, states that one of the main nineteenth century cases, Presser v. Illiois (1886), ``declared that the Second Amendment only protected individuals from federal not state infringement.''

As for twentieth century cases, the main one is a 1939 ruling in United States v. Miller, in which the court held unanimously that ``the Second Amendment protected the citizen's right to own weapons that were ordinary militia weapons.'' That excluded sawed-off shotguns, but left us a pretty heavy arsenal in their place. As to the ``collective right'' that the amendment supposedly expresses, the view that only the people collectively, not as individuals, have a right to keep and bear arms, the Oxford reference book concludes that ``history gives very little support for that view.''


547 posted on 10/07/2005 8:09:04 PM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Rokke
Take a quick look at the poll on the rightside of the forum page on this site. A VAST majority of Freepers either agree with Miers selection, or are waiting for more information.

Look again. The Yes (35%) and No (27%) votes are close, with the rest requiring more info. I could just as easily say the vast majority either disagree or are waiting for more info.

Of course, I wouldn't do that, because I'm not a disingenuous hack.

548 posted on 10/07/2005 8:10:13 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Rokke

Okay...you seem like a good person to ask.

In your opinion...what percentage of the republican party is what we on FR (according to Rush and Jim Rob def) would call conservative.

What percentage of the republican party is satisfied with Bushs selection of Miers as a candidate.

What percentage of the party follows the so called punditry class.

No trick questions...I keep hoping somebody might give me an estimate....I dont know.


549 posted on 10/07/2005 8:10:27 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Vicomte13
Because backing down would be a sign of weakness. So I'm not going to do it either. And neither are millions of others on the Right. Therefore, it is civil war and self-destruction for us all.

Well, you have to do what you have to do. Bush is not going to cave over Miers, and there are as many of us are there are of you who will be encouraging him to let her have her hearing.

550 posted on 10/07/2005 8:11:03 PM PDT by sinkspur (American Staffordshire Terriers should be bred out of existence.)
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To: Rokke
Hillary Clinton also has chaired an Arkansas state commission on education, hosted several conferences on children's issues, served on dozens of corporate and civic boards, and made a career as one of America's leading attorneys. She was named one of the nation's top 100 lawyers by the National Law Review in 1988 and 1991.

http://womensissues.about.com/library/bio/blbio_clinton_hillary.htm

551 posted on 10/07/2005 8:11:36 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Map Kernow

RE: Founders--there were no law schools back then--if you wanted to go into law, you "read law" with an attorney-- a kind of apprenticeship. Thirty-five of them were either lawyers or had studied law. The three authors of the Federalist Papers--Hamilton, Jay and Madison--were all lawyers who had also been to college. Hamilton and Jay went to King's College (now Columbia) and Madison went to Princeton.
John Adams was at Harvard, Thomas Jefferson was at William and Mary and founded the University of Virginia. Nearly all the founders were men of great education. They rejected an aristocracy of blood, but had enormous regard for educational excellence.


552 posted on 10/07/2005 8:11:56 PM PDT by born in the Bronx
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To: andy58-in-nh
Uh-huh. I can't wait until Sen. Hatch asks her about her views on original jurisdiction and substantive due process, and how she'd interpret the breadth of the Commerce Clause. That should be a hoot.

Your point is well made, but these concepts can be learned rather quickly if you are a truly smart lawyer. I just took the Bar exam, and I can tell you that 3 solid weeks of nothing but Conlaw can get her through the process. Scalia and Thomas can get her up to speed from there once she had been confirmed.

The Holy Spirit will cause her to become ill when in the presence of the liberal 4, so I don't think they will sway her.

553 posted on 10/07/2005 8:12:01 PM PDT by Clump
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To: rbmillerjr
What is it that separates her from Luttig, Brown, Owen and others?

Miers is confirmable.

554 posted on 10/07/2005 8:12:40 PM PDT by sinkspur (American Staffordshire Terriers should be bred out of existence.)
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To: ariamne

If you husband's experience in any way comports with mine, lawyers tend to be more honest than their clients as a generality. Ask him.


555 posted on 10/07/2005 8:12:49 PM PDT by Torie
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To: jwalsh07

Thomas Sowell quote...



"Considering some of the turkeys that Republicans have put on the Supreme Court in the past, she could be a big improvement."



I got a kick out of that one ... lol


556 posted on 10/07/2005 8:12:55 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The stars at night, are big and bright, deep in the heart of Texas!)
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To: rbmillerjr
"What is it that separates her from Luttig, Brown, Owen and others?"

For starters, the fact that while her peers consider her one of the top 100 lawyers in the country, conservative commentators like Ann Coulter and Bill Kristol seem to believe the only acceptable nominees for the Supreme Court are those lawyers who show up on their list. What public statements have Luttig, Brown and Owen made regarding the 2nd Amendment and whether or not they would overturn Roe V Wade?

557 posted on 10/07/2005 8:12:56 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Torie
As I said, the entire question and answer are all based on unknown sources. This morning, itseemed to me that the original Washington Post story was devised to alienate the Christian Right, as Berger voted for Roe v. Wade. Reactions to the Post story this morning were mostly concentrating on that issue.

I have no idea if she said this, if she really liked Berger, or if the whole thing is made up of whole cloth.

I will now go get another glass of wine.

By the way, my position on this nomination is this. Disappointed that we didn't get someone like Brown or Owens, understanding the political minefield the President has to negotiate, and hopeful that Miers will be surprisingly eloquent and informed.

If she does not acquit herself well, or shows herself to be incompetent or liberal, I will re-think my position.

558 posted on 10/07/2005 8:14:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: roses of sharon
LOL, so Bork want to Bork her?

Actually, no. "To bork" is to block or destroy through UNFAIR criticism.

559 posted on 10/07/2005 8:14:42 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: bray

His Mom calls slick "son".


560 posted on 10/07/2005 8:14:49 PM PDT by cynicom
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