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Miers, Miers on the Wall -- Harriet Miers as the human Rorschach test
Slate ^ | October 7, 2005 | Dahlia Lithwick

Posted on 10/07/2005 2:27:14 PM PDT by DallasMike

Over the last week it has been said that Harriet Miers is an "inkblot." That's supposed to mean she has no visible horns, no discernible politics, and no paper trail; that she's a huge national mystery. But what it should really mean is that she has become a huge national Rorschach test: We look at her and can see nothing beyond our own fears and anxieties.

What we actually know about Miers is virtually negligible: We know her notable successes as a Texas attorney; we know she's a serious born-again Christian; we know she is universally hailed as loyal and discreet. And we know she has been serving the president in various personal and professional capacities for a decade. But what we don't know could easily fill the 80,000 pages of John Roberts' documents we scrutinized so carefully before his confirmation

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Enter Harriet Miers stage right. No one really knows anything about her, yet the folks on the right talk about her like she's Satan in Size 6 shoes, and the folks on the left figure that if the right hates her so much, she must obviously be Bill Brennan in Size 6 shoes. Or at least David Souter in purple suede pumps. Once the Manuel Mirandas and George Wills made up their minds that she was both a dim bulb and a Bush crony, liberals were content to accept her as the best of a truly awful field of alternatives; she must be a dim bulb if Will says so. But better a dim bulb than a charismatic original thinker.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; harrietmiers; miers; myers; rorschach; scotus; slate; supremecourt
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To: Graymatter
Why can't she just xerox her fanny like everybody else?

Her company uses RICOH. Have you ever heard of anyone ricoh-ing their fanny?

21 posted on 10/07/2005 3:39:48 PM PDT by w_over_w (Go ASTROS!!! Make it to the big one . . . this time?)
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To: Siena Dreaming
I never said Miers was going to be a star.
I understand Dean sold out Nixon and it is unlikely that Miers will consciously do the same to Bush. But all the Democrats need is the opportunity and the soapbox. The media will take care of the rest.

If she doesn't answer their questions then she'll be accused of "stonewalling" by the press. The fact that it was ever a confirmation hearing will go completely out the window as the Democrats and the media turn it into a trial for the Bush administration.
22 posted on 10/07/2005 3:43:30 PM PDT by counterpunch
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To: counterpunch

You're real wrong.


23 posted on 10/07/2005 3:46:42 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: DallasMike
YOU SAID...."I still see the Miers nomination as a battle between social conservatives and neo-conservatives."

I dont agree with your characterizations of the divisions, but the important point is this...

Any strategery which ends up pitting one conservative group against another...as has already happened with this nomination on this forum..CANNOT be good for the conservative movement long term. All may be resolved...eventually...or it may not be.

The WH has rolled the dice with Meirs...which in my opinion is totally uncalled for.
24 posted on 10/07/2005 3:54:15 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Yeah?
Remember the Texas National Guard "controversy"?
Didn't that all start with a comment made by Michael Moore?

How long did that drag on for?
How much oxygen did that suck up?
How many news reports featuring forged documents did that generate?

And didn't the White House relent and finally turn over all of Bush's National Guard documents?
Didn't the media then comb through every last document looking for any indiscretion?
Wasn't there a scandal for a few days about Bush's teeth being somewhere while the rest of him wasn't?

But you believe that the woman who gives Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Libby legal advice, and who previously was in charge of reviewing every document that came in or out of the Oval Office from the very start of Bush's first term isn't going to be interrogated by Kennedy, Durbin, Biden, Leahy, or Schumer?

And you say I'm "real wrong"?


25 posted on 10/07/2005 3:59:16 PM PDT by counterpunch
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To: Dat Mon; DallasMike
It don't think its a battle between social conservatives and neo-conservatives. When this all broke a few days ago, I commented that it was going to come down as a battle between religious conservatives and Constitutional conservatives.

I think that is more accurate.
Religious conservatives are salivating at the prospect of having an Evangelical on the SCOTUS.
The conservative legal establishment is pissed that Bush injected his religious crusade right into the middle of their turf, stealing their decades long hard fought victory for himself.

I have to say the Constitutional conservatives are correct here, and Bush doesn't seem to get it that he is destroying the GOP. The judicial conservatives are a significant block of the Republican party, and they are about a lot more than just Roe v. Wade. It is an intellectual movement, and Bush should have not messed with their turf. This move, if left uncorrected could permanently fracture the party.
26 posted on 10/07/2005 4:07:49 PM PDT by counterpunch
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To: counterpunch
Yes. The woman is a nice, gentle person by all accounts.

They will not be willing to risk a grilling before the cameras about everything under the sun. The tried to do this with Condi. Remember how that turned out?

27 posted on 10/07/2005 4:14:58 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
There's a difference.
Bush had just won re-election. The wind was at his back.
People know and like Condi. We're on a first name basis with her.

People don't know and are suspicious of Miers.
She's creepy looking, no matter how sweet you may say she is.

People keep saying she's David Souter in a dress, but I think she's more like Robert Bork in a dress.
28 posted on 10/07/2005 4:20:36 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now!)
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To: counterpunch
She's creepy looking, no matter how sweet you may say she is.

Ugh...because you think she's "creepy looking" you think people will go for a grilling?

More nastiness toward Meirs from the conservatives.

Bye...you're not worth it.

29 posted on 10/07/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: counterpunch

Well try to think of Harriet Mier as an anti-Gingsberg. That will just about even the perception.


30 posted on 10/07/2005 4:33:08 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: conservative blonde

That's Harriet Miers.


31 posted on 10/07/2005 4:34:00 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Siena Dreaming

People thought Bork was creepy looking and that had a lot to do with why the Democrats got away with what they did.
We have a very beauty biased culture, and study after study has proved that. Attractive people are far more likely to get hired, get promotions, get paid more, and naturally, get dates. That's just a fact. People base their first impressions largely on looks. That is a fact. And Miers looks like a scheming frau that shouldn't be trusted. That's just the way it is.


32 posted on 10/07/2005 4:35:22 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now!)
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To: counterpunch
Well stated...and I concur.

The more I think about this nomination...the dumber it appears to me....from a strategery standpoint.

You see...the dems get a twofer with Miers.

Part of the Bush 'gift' to the dems is that they get to deflect the confirmation hearings away from issues of her actual qualifications over to issues of WH papers and policy and advice she gave to the WH. They use the hearings to attack Bush. Sure...she remains untouched...but they really dont care about that.

Does anyone here think the dems care what her legal qualifications are for the SCOTUS...as long as she is not a superstar??

Dont be surprised if she sails through the hearings...except Bush will be on trial once again.

That would be dumb....I guess Rove planned for and anticipated this.

Maybe this is the ultimate Rovian con of all time...lets see....
33 posted on 10/07/2005 5:01:08 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: counterpunch

Excellent analysis. I would emphasize, however, that whether one is a religious conservative or a constitutional conservative, there was no good reason for Bush's betrayal of the many millions of voters who elected him when he could have just as easily chosen someone who was a confirmable evangelical AND a constitutional conservative (Such as Judge Karen Williams). More importantly, even if Miers is indeed a sincere pro-life Christian THAT DOES NOT MEAN SHE WILL VOTE AS A JUDICIAL CONSERVATIVE on the Court. Was the self-described evangelical Christian Jimmy Carter a conservative President?

Everything we know about Harriet Miers indicates she is someone who is 1) At best, underqualified for the Supreme Court and chosen out of cronyism; 2) Someone who does not appear to have any firm ideology, changing both her religion and political party well into adulthood; and 3) Someone who's past associations indicate that she is far more likely to end up as another Blackmun or Souter rather than a Scalia or Thomas (Active in the ABA and not the Federalist Society; Moderate to liberal positions on the Dallas City Council, joining Alberto Gonzalez in support of Affirmative Action within the White House in the Grutter case, etc;) Further, recent history has shown that judges who do not have a firm, originalist philosophy will almost always drift Leftward on the Court in order to appease the liberal media, academia, and legal establishment.

This nomination is, as Judge Bork aptly put it, a DISASTER on both substance and politics. I pray that her nomination is withdrawn (and an actual qualified judicial conservative is nominated) before even more irreparable damage is done to the Republican Party and the conservative movement itself...


34 posted on 10/07/2005 6:01:37 PM PDT by larlaw
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To: DallasMike
social...neo..conservatives

I'm tempted to do the same, but I'm a combination of both. I buy into the moral imperatives of the social conservatives, and I buy into the democratization of the world scheme and financial largesse of the neo's.

But, I'm not conflicted about Miers. I support her. Her nomination matters not a whit in terms of world & social policy.

Is there something about the rejected, potential nominees that would have led to more neo-conservative friendly rulings from the Supreme Court? Is there something about potential Miers viewpoints that would be contrary to neo-conservative hopes?

I cannot see them yet, if they exist.

There's something more to the Miers rejection than a neo/social conservative rift.

35 posted on 10/07/2005 6:25:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Siena Dreaming

"Hogwash. They don't have free reign to question her about intimate conversations with the President. I think you know this."

Says who? You? The Democrats were going to look at Roberts adoption, so you think the questioning will be limited? Ha Ha!


36 posted on 10/08/2005 8:50:09 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: w_over_w

Overhead of a person sitting in an office chair?


37 posted on 10/08/2005 12:41:45 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: shempy; Dat Mon; xzins; counterpunch
I think that Peggy Noonan used the correct words in describing it as "Church Lady v. Ivy League."

I, like so many others, am at home with both the Church Lady and the Ivy Leageurs. However, a lot of pure Church Ladies are suspicious of people with too much education and a lot of the Brahmin Republicans are hugely distrustful of anyone who

 

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38 posted on 10/08/2005 12:50:22 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: FastCoyote
The Democrats were going to look at Roberts adoption

Why do you use an example which is easily refuted? And was adoption brought up? No. The Dems knew they would look foolish, and they were right.

The Dems know Miers will not be expected to give private info because of Executive Privilege.

I know you people are hoping for some kind of an inquisition but it ain't gonna happen.

39 posted on 10/08/2005 12:52:00 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: counterpunch
Bush doesn't seem to get it that he is destroying the GOP... It is an intellectual movement, and Bush should have not messed with their turf. This move, if left uncorrected could permanently fracture the party.

There are a lot of FReepers who don't seem to have a clue about this either. The notion that those of us who disagree with the Miers nomination are "whiners" throwing a "hissy fit" is repeated again and again in these threads. It is uncalled for and offensive. It is one thing to make rational arguments for Miers, another to abandon argument in favor of obnoxious insults. Elitist that I am, I think this reeks.

40 posted on 10/08/2005 2:02:41 PM PDT by TChad
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