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Justices Explore U.S. Authority Over States on Assisted Suicide
NYT ^ | October 6, 2005 | lINDA GREENHOUSE

Posted on 10/05/2005 11:12:43 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi

WASHINGTON, Oct. 5 - The question of assisted suicide reached the Supreme Court for the second time in eight years on Wednesday, although the profound issues of professional ethics and personal autonomy that have animated the national debate largely remained outside the courtroom.

Instead, lawyers for the federal government and for Oregon, the only state to have authorized physician-assisted suicide, argued over a single question: whether John Ashcroft acted within his authority as attorney general when he decided in 2001 that doctors would lose their federal prescription privileges if they followed the Oregon law's procedures and prescribed lethal doses of lawful medications for terminally ill patients who wanted to end their own lives.

This is a straightforward question of federal administrative law, the bread and butter of the Supreme Court's docket. A federal appeals court ruled last year that in enacting the Controlled Substances Act in 1970, Congress did not give the attorney general the unilateral authority to penalize doctors who follow state law in prescribing federally regulated medications. The case, now known as Gonzales v. Oregon, No. 04-623, is the Bush administration's appeal.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. was an active participant in the questioning. He asked Solicitor General Paul D. Clement, who was defending the Ashcroft action, for "the closest analogy you have, other than this case," in which the attorney general had "impinged on" a state regulation of medical practice.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; bush; cote; nominee; roberts; scotus; supremecourt
Hon. Roberts is good.
1 posted on 10/05/2005 11:12:44 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

... but the NYT makes a bias-report.


2 posted on 10/05/2005 11:15:20 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi
I can't read the whole article because I won't log onto the times site so this may be covered there.

I heard a reporter today say the Chief asked Solicitor General Paul D. Clement a question which totally stumped him. She said she had never seen him stumped before.
3 posted on 10/05/2005 11:17:08 PM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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To: alessandrofiaschi
[... whether] doctors would lose their federal prescription privileges if they followed the Oregon law's procedures and prescribed lethal doses of lawful medications for terminally ill patients who wanted to end their own lives.

This shouldn't come up at all except as enforcement of professional conduct. Physicians, as a matter of honor, cannot officially cause someone to die. But we have strayed from common sense.

4 posted on 10/05/2005 11:24:32 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: alessandrofiaschi
"Instead, lawyers for the federal government and for Oregon, the only state to have authorized physician-assisted suicide, argued over a single question: whether John Ashcroft acted within his authority as attorney general when he decided in 2001 that doctors would lose their federal prescription privileges if they followed the Oregon law's procedures and prescribed lethal doses of lawful medications for terminally ill patients who wanted to end their own lives."

The federal government has its tentacles in everything.

They give money to local schools, so they can mandate no guns within 1000 feet of the school.

They give money to the states for highways, so they can mandate a 21 year old drinking age.

Any time people ask congress to intervene in one area or another, it just invites federal control over almost everything in that area. You can't ask the devil to dance and expect to lead.
5 posted on 10/05/2005 11:32:04 PM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: alessandrofiaschi

------- Senator Ashcroft then helped sponsor a bill to prohibit assisted suicide, which did not pass.





The above fact points to the REAL PROBLEM.

The US Senate is turning into a Socialist, Communist, European franchise. Can't even digest the fact that this is the Republican controlled Senate.

On the question before the Supreme Court, I have no serious legal opinion. The issue is too complicated.

Though, I prefer to err on the side of life, always.


6 posted on 10/05/2005 11:40:13 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: alessandrofiaschi

The correct ruling in this case is that, even though federal Prohibition is unconstitutional, so long as we will pretend otherwise, then the Controlled Substances Act should be enforced purely toward the authorized purpose of limiting recreational drug use, and not otherwise abrogate the State's prerogative to regulate medical practices.

It sounds as if Roberts will not rule correctly, unlike Rehnquist who probably would have ruled to uphold States Rights, as he did in the medical marijuana case.


7 posted on 10/06/2005 12:01:56 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: flashbunny
They give money to local schools, so they can mandate no guns within 1000 feet of the school.

Actually this was ruled Unconstitutional and most of the rest of the Brady Bill has since sunseted.

8 posted on 10/06/2005 12:10:09 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

---Actually this was ruled Unconstitutional and most of the rest of the Brady Bill has since sunseted.---

Yes, it was declared unconstitutional, but they reworded it and got it passed again:

http://www.gunowners.org/fs9713.htm


9 posted on 10/06/2005 12:19:12 AM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: AntiGuv
It sounds as if Roberts will not rule correctly

I have been told by those who should know that one should not infer from Roberts' questions that he will vote to uphold Ashcroft--in fact, the opposite is more likely, since most judges ask those with whom they agree the toughest questions--the very same questions they expect the opposing judges to raise later during "negotiations" on the joint ruling. The purpose of such questions is to draw out into the record whatever counter-arguments can be elicited from the litigators.

10 posted on 10/06/2005 12:24:36 AM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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To: sourcery; AntiGuv

IMO, NYT presented Roberts as an "opponent" of Ashcroft, differently from many other reported rundowns of the same case in front of the Supreme Court.


11 posted on 10/06/2005 12:44:28 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Interesting. You are correct that the NYT represents Roberts as unfavorable to the government position, which would be great IMHO! I didn't bother to read the NYT article you posted because I'd already read so many others on this today. Overall, they seem to cast Roberts as favoring the federal government authority though.


12 posted on 10/06/2005 12:50:31 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: sourcery

That is an excellent point, and you may very well be correct. I hope that you are. It's quite true that we won't be able to get a decent 'read' on Roberts until he issues a few key rulings.


13 posted on 10/06/2005 12:51:41 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: flashbunny

That covers on schools grounds only.


14 posted on 10/06/2005 1:58:27 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: alessandrofiaschi; oregon; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ..

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15 posted on 10/06/2005 5:24:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: alessandrofiaschi
If this has not been mentioned yet, then allow me to. If it has, then allow me to repeat it: There is no such thing as assisted suicide. Suicide is when someone takes their own life on their own. When another person becomes involved, whether it is a doctor or family member, it becomes something else, which is murder.

I don't give a flying frig, a flaming horse's patoot what those morons in Oregon want. I know all about state's rights and all that, but we are talking about human life here, something that has already been cheapened through abortion (including partial-birth) and the killing of a completely innocent woman by the State of Florida. In cases such as this, we not only need the Feds to step in, we should demand it.

16 posted on 10/07/2005 7:30:44 AM PDT by Houmatt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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