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| 10-05-05
| the heavy equipment guy
Posted on 10/05/2005 1:13:54 PM PDT by backhoe
The original, vast post:
The latest:
Many new links here:
Here's a Tulsa World update thread with comments on local talk radio trying to quench the story. Too many questions. Too many problems with the party line. The thread also has the latest on link between pipebomb material found on Hinrich and pipe bomb found on OK City airplane flight.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1497095/posts
We Aren't Getting the Full Story on the OU Football "Suicide Bomber"
Cheema was employed in Tulsa by a company owned in part by Terry Lenzner, a close friend and investigator for Bill and Hillary Clinton.
This nugget from the Tulsa article. high-density hydrogen peroxide, just like the London bombers... and the Pali's....
There was an AQ tape - a year & 1/2 ago? - that specifically mentioned and/or depicted goalposts.
And what about the most recent tape, with the American convert issuing the threats? I've said it before on the long OU Bombing thread, and I'll say it here again: I believe using that convert on the tape was a signal to cells in the US to activate their American converts.
Muslim Student Association....
Stephen Schwartz, a muslim, calls the Muslim Student Association a Wahhabi front.
And in roughly chronological order:
Student Investigated by the FBI --Not directly related to the OU Bombing, but thought it interesting. The post was followed by this note: "Zacarias Moussaoui purchased flight deck videos from Sporty's."
The story of the suicide bomber at the University of Oklahoma football stadium, determinedly ignored by mainstream media, is beginning to get interesting: Gateway Pundit: Sooner Bomber Wanted to Buy Ammonium Nitrate!
More links:
ChannelOklahoma.com - News - Hinrichs Tried To Buy Ammonium Nitrate
Gates of Vienna: Jihad at the University of Oklahoma?
The Jawa Report: Oklahoma Suicide Bomber May be Jihadi, Father Denies
Lone Star Times: Boomer Sooner
We Aren’t Getting the Full Story on the OU Football ‘Suicide Bomber’ - NewsBusters.org
JihadWatch is also on the story:
How much longer will our media, government, and higher education cover for, even enable, our enemies? Stay tuned. We wouldn't want to offend
any peace-loving Muslims.
Sources ID TATP As Component Of [OU] Bomb (called 'Mother of Satan' by Islamist extremists)
Veteran journalist Mark Tapscott raises red flags over the MSM's coverage of the Oklahoma suicide bomber.
Who is Joel Hinrichs?
Amish? Or Muzzi sympathizer?
MANY PATHS SEEM TO INTERSECT IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496731/posts?page=99#99
Demonizing? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496778/posts.
"Terrorists Among Us - The Jihad in America" VHS at Amazon.Com
According to google news... no national media has covered this. Only local OK media and WND!
Oklahoma Suicide Bomber Had Bigger Plans
Wizbang, DC - 18 hours ago
Northeast Intelligence Network is reporting that the suicide bomber outside Saturday's OU/Kansas football game appears to have been planning something bigger ...
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Oklahoma suicide bomber
American Thinker, AZ - Oct 3, 2005
No "normal" person commits suicide by blowing himself up in public with a ... Saturday night in an explosion outside the University of Oklahoma's football stadium ...
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Police probe suicide bomb
Unison.ie (subscription), Ireland - 56 minutes ago
A SUICIDE bomb was detonated outside a college football game in Oklahoma last Sunday but officials say it had only one intended victim: the bomber. ...
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433 posted on
10/05/2005 12:09:15 AM EDT by
adam_az
Here is another video that gives props to some of the bloggers on this deal including digitalbrownshirt, baseline, and flopping aces.
http://newsok.com/video/1633828/
The first photo we saw of Hinrichs was from the FBI, the FBI has not told anyone why they had it. This video talks about this item.
This is being covered up because of the fear it would send across America.
"The MSM and Gov't are going to be extremely reluctant to disclosed that the enemy is among us and are deploying to blast away. The real war is coming."
Agreed. We are on the cusp of a global war, and the first battles have already been fought here on US soil.
Speaking of Moussaoui ?
The co-pilot who died in the crash of Sen. Paul Wellstone's plane played a minor role in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui...
Transcription of pages 299-302 from The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis --
Flopping Aces reports: "Apparently the local CBS affiliate in OKC had a report that Hinrichs has been known to visit the local Islamic center around the corner from his apartment..."
Wizbang with details from this morning.
The Norman Transcript provides more details (hat tip: Laura Lee Donoho)
I've got a link for the News 9 video as an update at the bottom of
this post. Sorry about the link whoring, but I'm excited about blogging this story. People need to know, and it's great too see the truth coming out.
Video of "he tried to buy Ammonium Nitrate ( AN ) from me:
CBS affiliate News 9 in OKC just did a story less than an hour ago that said Hinrichs had been seen at the Islamic Center near his home,
his room mate was a Pakastani and Hinrichs tried to buy some ammonium nitrate last week. I posted this same info on my blog
here.
4,142 posted on
10/04/2005 7:24:59 PM EDT by
Cindy
... maybe it's me, maybe I'm having a bad day, watched every minute of the press conf. today -- steroids, bird flu -- distractions, while people are streaming over the borders. Not one question about that.
Not one word about a homicide bomber at OU.
UPDATE -Oklahoma - Interesting Links ON THE NET...
Hinrichs (OU Suicide Bomber) Tried To Buy Ammonium Nitrate
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5057494/detail.html
"Hinrichs Tried To Buy Ammonium Nitrate"
POSTED: 5:16 pm CDT October 4, 2005
UPDATED: 6:10 pm CDT October 4, 2005
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "NORMAN, Okla. -- The general manager of a Norman feed store said Tuesday that Joel Henry Hinrichs III had inquired about purchasing a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, the primary ingredient used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.
Dustin Ellison, the general manager of Ellison Feed & Seed on Porter Avenue, said that a man matching Hinrichs' description had come into the store days before he blew himself up on OU's campus. Ellison said the man asked about ammonium nitrate, but couldn't offer a reason why he needed it."
http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=91267
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496603/posts
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/04/oklahoma.explosion.ap/index.html
"Dad: Oklahoma student bomber wasn't politically motivated"
well..that cinches it for me. Pakistani roomate + bombs = Islamists & terrorists. put me on the ping list if there is one going please. Good grief..this is the first I have heard of that little tidbit.
OU bomber had huge explosive stash; Mystery remains over suicide outside Sooners game -- This is a duplicate of this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495507/posts
Wherein was remarked that this story seems to be getting the official HUSH treatment. Perhaps this is just to give the FBI time to track down any accomplices, but the tinfoil hats (myself included) think there is a certain amount of "lets not scare anyone" mentality being used here... This situation will undoubtedly be quietly handled and gently discussed in subdued tones until enough people lose interest. Then, about eight months after this incident, a small-print report will be issued confirming that, yes...this boy was a recent Muslim convert and attempted to carry out a terrorist attack.
That's precisely how the authorities handled the July 4th 2002 terrorist attack by an Egyptian Muslim at the El-Al airline section at LAX.
Wasson graduate died in likely suicide at OU
I did a couple of pieces on my blog
The Digital Brownshirt about this, so I already had the info handy. Must be a lot of people looking for info on the bombing considering my hits are 3 times normal today.
It seems the MSM wants this story to go away.
TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: domesticterrorism; freeperresources; hinrichs; nationalsecurity; nonterroristattack; normanbombing; okbombing; oubombing; pajamapeoplerule; suicidebombing
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To: Peach
Thanks, Peach- that danged TS Tammy is moving a squall line over us, so I may come & go a while- but I'll be around.
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posted on
10/05/2005 3:46:39 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: Lizarde
...think it will do any good...That's a good question- we'll see just how much clout the New Media has with this.
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posted on
10/05/2005 3:48:23 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: pinz-n-needlez; ken5050
If I kept a ping list, you'd be the first on it-- but I used to get so many "take me off yer %^%! list" messages that I quit some time ago.
indcons is keeping one, however- drop him (?) a note.
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posted on
10/05/2005 3:53:31 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: All
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posted on
10/05/2005 3:56:59 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: mlc9852
agreed, the MSM is out to lunch on this one... guess they don't like reporting about their failed jihadist brethren..
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posted on
10/05/2005 3:58:04 PM PDT
by
fhlh
(Polls are for strippers and liberal spin.)
To: All
66
posted on
10/05/2005 4:10:55 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: backhoe; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom
Great job Backhoe...
The effort to do a coverup here just seems huge/ makes no sense so moving on to outlandish theories /
Maybe this is a CIA place to.....uh.... get info ...
I posted this:
Nations Struggle to Infiltrate al-Qaida
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the link... here's a little more:
Updated FR list-o-links with brief descriptions (Update 2 on 10/05/2005). This list will be updated as new threads are posted.
Main thread with tons of useful info and breaking news from day one, Oct. 01Joel jihad identification thread, Oct. 02Bomb material found thread, Oct. 02Explosive stash found thread, Oct. 03Joel Jihad tries to buy Ammonium Nitrate thread, Oct. 04OK City Channel 9 story thread, Oct. 04Malkin blog posts thread, Oct. 04Sources ID TATP thread, Oct. 04Roomie identified thread, Oct. 05More on the roomie thread 1, Oct. 05More on the roomie thread 2, Oct. 05Boren bio, Oct. 05DougFromUpland interview with Jayna Davis thread, Oct. 05Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found, Oct. 05. Breaking news now
83 posted on
10/05/2005 9:28:13 PM EDT by
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394 posted on
10/05/2005 10:40:24 PM EDT by
RDTF
"Al-Attas often prays at the mosque and teaches classes on good character at an Islamic school, the member said"
Same Islamic school the bomber went to? Same al attas that was pals with Moussaoui
http://www.thehoya.com/news/092501/news7.cfm
... for instance... Just saying....
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MANY PATHS SEEM TO INTERSECT IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA
- In early July 2000, Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi visited the Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma.
- On or about 29 September, 2000, Zacharias MOUSSAOUI contacted Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma using an e-mail account he set up on September 6 with an internet service provider in Malaysia.
- On or about 26 February 2001, Zacharias MOUSSAOUI opened a bank account in Norman, Oklahoma where he deposited approximately $32,000 in cash.
- Between 26 February 2001 and 29 May 2001, MOUSSAOUI attended the Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma, ending his classes early.
- And more recently...26 September 2005: A University of Oklahoma student charged with bringing an explosive device to an airport pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge in federal court in Oklahoma City. Charles Alfred Dreyling Jr. of Norman, Oklahoma faces up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine at a future sentencing hearing. Dreyling, 24, was arrested in August at the Will Rogers World Airport after security personnel noticed a suspicious object in his carryon bag as he was leaving for a family vacation with his parents. He later told FBI agents the device -- a modified carbon dioxide cartridge filled with gunpowder -- was "basically a pipe bomb," according to court papers that he had forgotten was in his bag. (Former Oklahoma City, OK Mayor Kirk Humphreys-- who was also DREYLING'S landlord-- spoke on behalf of DREYLING at his bail hearing).
- On a bus trip to the University of Oklahoma, Zacharias MOUSSAOUI was on the same bus as Nicholas BERG, the American man who was beheaded in Iraq in 2004 by Islamic terrorists. At some point on that trip, MOUSSAOUI asked BERG if he could use BERG'S laptop computer. Government sources said BERG gave the MOUSSAOUI his computer password...
- September 11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s ticket (United Airlines Flight 93) was purchased from a computer terminal at Oklahoma University.
- Norman, OK is also cited on a number of occasions in the best-selling book, the most comprehensive investigative work by Jayna Davis titled The Third Terrorist, about the truck bomb blast that killed 171 souls and destroyed the Murrah Federal Building on 19 April 1995 (An absolute MUST read).
Officer had clue before OU blast
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posted on
10/06/2005 2:03:02 AM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: All
SUMMARY so far: To: Howlin
Hi Howlin, Glad to see you! (o: I'm in the progress of working up a detailed and referenced summary of what we know so far, but I'll try sum most of it up in a few quick sentences if I can... (those who know me will laugh heartily at that statement (o;)
First, the MSM is following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.
1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now.
2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tenatively* been identified as Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a student at OU. Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) maintain he was not associated with muslims he was living with a Pakistani roommate (more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion by any sense.
It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area. Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed...
(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.)
3.) Five other reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting. (5 "accomplices" re-surfaced in reporting tonight - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.)
4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb. This was originally reported as a second device by authorities.
5.) FBI cleared out apartment building and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such.
6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance.
7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria.
8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory).
9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store. One report said an undercover police officer was reportedly there and got a license plate number, and one report I saw said the owner of the store called the FBI.
Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes. This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Nick Berg, et al...)
Early reports that couldn't be relied upon (verboten site to FR) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media as well.
Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.
There is probably more I'm forgetting at this point - it's late and I've got to bed after this post (In-laws dropping by tomorrow)... I apologize if I've left anything crucial out.
To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching, as well as a couple of other FReepers whose contributions have been tremendous and whose name I can't recall offhand - SORRY!
You may also wish to freepmail indcons and ask to be put on the "Norman Bombing" ping list the two of them have going. Cindy also has a nice collection of updated links in this thread and FReeper Backhoe earlier today posted a compilation thread. (Search their "in forum" link from their profile pages is probably the best way to find the threads.)
I'll ping you to my detailed summary once completed... it's taking me longer than I thought, but I'll try best I can to tie this altogether in one big article that's a little easier to follow.
Thanks for stopping by Howlin' (o:
Take care,
LR
hattip:
4,462 posted on
10/06/2005 6:43:48 AM EDT by
Cindy
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:01:26 AM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: backhoe
Thank you so much!
Bookmarked!
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:26:49 AM PDT
by
BlessedBeGod
(Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
To: BlessedBeGod; DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
Thank you both for looking- no doubt more will be revealed as time passes.
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posted on
10/06/2005 7:08:26 AM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: All
LGF operative zombie has put together an overview of what’s known so far about the Suicide Bombing in Norman, Oklahoma, a case that is getting curiouser and curiouser—with news that the person who died in the blast, Joel Henry Hinrichs III, had a roommate who was a member of the Muslim Students Association, and may have attended a nearby mosque.
Here’s a video report at NewsOK.com, with an interview with the owner of a feed store where Hinrichs apparently tried to buy ammonium nitrate fertilizer (which can be used to build very powerful bombs) a few days before his death.
UPDATE at 10/5/05 7:09:14 pm:
I’m starting to think this was a work accident (lgf: search.)
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posted on
10/06/2005 12:27:05 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: All
74
posted on
10/06/2005 12:46:30 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: backhoe
75
posted on
10/06/2005 1:54:54 PM PDT
by
Rightly Biased
(<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
To: Rightly Biased
Thanks for the
Bring
Up
My
Post
76
posted on
10/06/2005 1:58:10 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: backhoe
77
posted on
10/06/2005 4:02:05 PM PDT
by
RaceBannon
(Presently in Beijing China.)
To: RaceBannon
Thanks, Race- here's a little more:
Didn't know if you heard about this too:
Per KTOK...
2nd Violent Suicide On Higher Ed Campus Wednesday, October 5, 2005 at 6:08pm For the second time in less than a week, a violent suicide has occurred on an Oklahoma school campus. A former student shot and killed herself today in front of a startled deputy on the Francis Tuttle Technology Center in Oklahoma City.
By Jerry Bohnen
Four days after a student killed himself with a bomb on the OU campus, a former student at the Francis Tuttle Technology Center shot and killed herself in front of a sheriff's deputy. Police say the late afternoon shooting today occurred in the school's Information Technology building. A spokesman on the campus at 12777 North Rockwell said the woman pulled out a handgun and shot herself in the head after she was confronted by the Oklahoma County sheriff's deputy. No one else, including the startled deputy was injured in the shooting. Classes at the Information Technology center were cancelled for the night and tomorrow.
4,470 posted on
10/06/2005 10:17:15 AM EDT by
Ros42
Some*sensational* (and I don't mean "wonderful") stuff from some of the linked blogs, since I can't access video or audio, to just put here, but not for its credibility. Grain of salt time.
."They found around 400 pounds of explosives in Mr. Hinrich's car and over 1,000 pounds in his apartment on campus."
... latest info (ticket to Algeria, 5 others possibly involved, etc)
78
posted on
10/06/2005 4:22:21 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: backhoe
Updated FR list-o-links with brief descriptions (Update 3 on 10/06/2005). This list will be updated as new threads are posted.
Main thread with tons of useful info and breaking news from day one, Oct. 01 Joel jihad identification thread, Oct. 02Bomb material found thread, Oct. 02Explosive stash found thread, Oct. 03Joel Jihad tries to buy Ammonium Nitrate thread, Oct. 04OK City Channel 9 story thread, Oct. 04Malkin blog posts thread, Oct. 04Sources ID TATP thread, Oct. 04Roomie identified thread, Oct. 05More on the roomie thread 1, Oct. 05More on the roomie thread 2, Oct. 05Boren bio, Oct. 05DougFromUpland interview with Jayna Davis thread, Oct. 05Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found, Oct. 05. Must-read threadOfficer had clue before OU blast; Oct. 06Jayna Davis’ radio schedule…check it out; Oct. 06Updated links; some consolidated info from other FR threads….check it out; Oct. 06
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posted on
10/06/2005 4:39:53 PM PDT
by
indcons
(Please FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons if you want on/off the Norman Bombing ping list.)
To: backhoe
Great work - bttt.
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