The University of Oklahoma Bomber- Link Roundup

Thanks, Peach- that danged TS Tammy is moving a squall line over us, so I may come & go a while- but I'll be around.

...think it will do any good...

That's a good question- we'll see just how much clout the New Media has with this.

If I kept a ping list, you'd be the first on it-- but I used to get so many "take me off yer %^%! list" messages that I quit some time ago.

indcons is keeping one, however- drop him (?) a note.

Some fresh info from email:

Just wanted to point this out:

Nick berg(beheaded in Iraq)went to OU. Met with associate of Shoe Bomber while at OU. Seems to be alot of connections that are more than chance.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/
hattip: Skeeve14

Also:
I found this post on another website...
http://www.oudaily.com/vfeedback/frontend.v?ACTION=display_post&Post_ID=6ed1b4648fc6b5fa51a02fd8b6e8b72e
hattip: LA Woman3

agreed, the MSM is out to lunch on this one... guess they don't like reporting about their failed jihadist brethren..

David Boren and George Tenet (Oklahoma, University, Norman, OK) -- On second thoughts, there is a lot of stuff on the entire blog. Ping going out to full list right away. Thanks again Lizarde.
Please check this site: http://www.tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/
There are quite a few posts on the Norman bombing on this blog. Check it out.

go here now:
http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/10/13-plastic-bottles-found-in-hinrichs.html

Great job Backhoe...

The effort to do a coverup here just seems huge/ makes no sense so moving on to outlandish theories /

Maybe this is a CIA place to.....uh.... get info ...

I posted this:

Nations Struggle to Infiltrate al-Qaida

Thanks for the link... here's a little more:

JAYNA DAVIS: Report No. 1 - OU SUICIDE BOMBING CASE

OKC Ch 9:OU Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found -- How is this crap ever going to get resolved unless people are awakened to the threat around them?

Updated FR list-o-links with brief descriptions (Update 2 on 10/05/2005). This list will be updated as new threads are posted.

Main thread with tons of useful info and breaking news from day one, Oct. 01
Joel jihad identification thread, Oct. 02
Bomb material found thread, Oct. 02
Explosive stash found thread, Oct. 03
Joel Jihad tries to buy Ammonium Nitrate thread, Oct. 04
OK City Channel 9 story thread, Oct. 04
Malkin blog posts thread, Oct. 04
Sources ID TATP thread, Oct. 04
Roomie identified thread, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 1, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 2, Oct. 05
Boren bio, Oct. 05
DougFromUpland interview with Jayna Davis thread, Oct. 05
Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found, Oct. 05. Breaking news now

83 posted on 10/05/2005 9:28:13 PM EDT by indcons

These search terms have been highlighted:

cheema

oklahoma

http://tinyurl.com/dyamw

Here are some direct links:

"More details emerge about suicide bomber"
http://newsok.com/video/1634836/

"OU suicide bomber attempted entry"
http://newsok.com/video/1634831/

Associated Press (in 2002): Zacarias Moussaoui, the "20th hijacker" of 9/11, was connected to the Islamic Society of Norman.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IslamicNewsUpdates/message/1690

Link found at:

http://www.zombietime.com/oklahoma_suicide_bombing/

He even used the same bomb ingredients as the London bombers:

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5058347/detail.html

Cheney warns of 'decades of war'

THE THIRD TERRORIST

"Here is the scary part. How many other things have occured that have been completely obscured."

You mean like say....

Flight 800

http://www.twa800.com/index.htm

Flight 587

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/17/200515.shtml

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm

394 posted on 10/05/2005 10:40:24 PM EDT by RDTF

"Al-Attas often prays at the mosque and teaches classes on good character at an Islamic school, the member said"

Same Islamic school the bomber went to? Same al attas that was pals with Moussaoui

http://www.thehoya.com/news/092501/news7.cfm

... for instance... Just saying....

MANY PATHS SEEM TO INTERSECT IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA
In early July 2000, Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi visited the Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma.
On or about 29 September, 2000, Zacharias MOUSSAOUI contacted Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma using an e-mail account he set up on September 6 with an internet service provider in Malaysia.
On or about 26 February 2001, Zacharias MOUSSAOUI opened a bank account in Norman, Oklahoma where he deposited approximately $32,000 in cash.
Between 26 February 2001 and 29 May 2001, MOUSSAOUI attended the Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma, ending his classes early.
And more recently...26 September 2005: A University of Oklahoma student charged with bringing an explosive device to an airport pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge in federal court in Oklahoma City. Charles Alfred Dreyling Jr. of Norman, Oklahoma faces up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine at a future sentencing hearing. Dreyling, 24, was arrested in August at the Will Rogers World Airport after security personnel noticed a suspicious object in his carryon bag as he was leaving for a family vacation with his parents. He later told FBI agents the device -- a modified carbon dioxide cartridge filled with gunpowder -- was "basically a pipe bomb," according to court papers that he had forgotten was in his bag. (Former Oklahoma City, OK Mayor Kirk Humphreys-- who was also DREYLING'S landlord-- spoke on behalf of DREYLING at his bail hearing).
On a bus trip to the University of Oklahoma, Zacharias MOUSSAOUI was on the same bus as Nicholas BERG, the American man who was beheaded in Iraq in 2004 by Islamic terrorists. At some point on that trip, MOUSSAOUI asked BERG if he could use BERG'S laptop computer. Government sources said BERG gave the MOUSSAOUI his computer password...
September 11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s ticket (United Airlines Flight 93) was purchased from a computer terminal at Oklahoma University.
Norman, OK is also cited on a number of occasions in the best-selling book, the most comprehensive investigative work by Jayna Davis titled The Third Terrorist, about the truck bomb blast that killed 171 souls and destroyed the Murrah Federal Building on 19 April 1995 (An absolute MUST read).

UPDATE - OKLAHOMA - Interesting Links ON THE NET...

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5063479/detail.html
"Student Leader: Hinrichs Not Muslim"

http://www.zombietime.com/oklahoma_suicide_bombing/

http://www.oudaily.com
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/43433ca1a24f0?in_archive=1

http://www.newsok.com
http://newsok.com/video/1634836/
http://newsok.com/video/1634831/

http://www.normantranscript.com
http://www.normantranscript.com/localnews/local_story_230004903
Published: August 18, 2005 12:30 am

"OU student faces Aug. 31 hearing on federal charges"

"Dreyling still enrolled, has commercial pilot's license"

Excellent summary on that blog!
( http://www.justinpaulbrown.com/blog/ )

Officer had clue before OU blast

http://www.newsok.com/article/1634950/?template=home/main

Norman info from this link:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_135.shtml

SUMMARY so far:

To: Howlin

Hi Howlin, Glad to see you! (o: I'm in the progress of working up a detailed and referenced summary of what we know so far, but I'll try sum most of it up in a few quick sentences if I can... (those who know me will laugh heartily at that statement (o;)

First, the MSM is following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.

1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now.

2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tenatively* been identified as Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a student at OU. Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) maintain he was not associated with muslims he was living with a Pakistani roommate (more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion by any sense.

It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area. Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed...

(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.)

3.) Five other reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting. (5 "accomplices" re-surfaced in reporting tonight - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.)

4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb. This was originally reported as a second device by authorities.

5.) FBI cleared out apartment building and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such.

6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance.

7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria.

8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory).

9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store. One report said an undercover police officer was reportedly there and got a license plate number, and one report I saw said the owner of the store called the FBI.

Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes. This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Nick Berg, et al...)

Early reports that couldn't be relied upon (verboten site to FR) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media as well.

Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.

There is probably more I'm forgetting at this point - it's late and I've got to bed after this post (In-laws dropping by tomorrow)... I apologize if I've left anything crucial out.

To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching, as well as a couple of other FReepers whose contributions have been tremendous and whose name I can't recall offhand - SORRY!

You may also wish to freepmail indcons and ask to be put on the "Norman Bombing" ping list the two of them have going. Cindy also has a nice collection of updated links in this thread and FReeper Backhoe earlier today posted a compilation thread. (Search their "in forum" link from their profile pages is probably the best way to find the threads.)

I'll ping you to my detailed summary once completed... it's taking me longer than I thought, but I'll try best I can to tie this altogether in one big article that's a little easier to follow.

Thanks for stopping by Howlin' (o:
Take care,
LR

4,457 posted on 10/06/2005 5:19:48 AM EDT by LibertyRocks

http://www.normantranscript.com/localnews/local_story_279005013
Published: October 06, 2005 12:15 am
"Student tried to buy ammonium nitrate"

http://www.newsok.com
http://newsok.com/video/1634950/
http://www.newsok.com/video/1633639

http://www.oudaily.com
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/4344a2c30d701

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46681
"OU bomber tried to buy ammonium nitrate
University student attended same mosque as 9-11's Moussaoui"

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17772
http://www.zombietime.com/oklahoma_suicide_bombing/

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003675.htm

hattip:

4,462 posted on 10/06/2005 6:43:48 AM EDT by Cindy

Thank you so much!

Bookmarked!

Thank you both for looking- no doubt more will be revealed as time passes.

Zombie: Oklahoma Suicide Bombing Reports

LGF operative zombie has put together an overview of what’s known so far about the Suicide Bombing in Norman, Oklahoma, a case that is getting curiouser and curiouser—with news that the person who died in the blast, Joel Henry Hinrichs III, had a roommate who was a member of the Muslim Students Association, and may have attended a nearby mosque.

Here’s a video report at NewsOK.com, with an interview with the owner of a feed store where Hinrichs apparently tried to buy ammonium nitrate fertilizer (which can be used to build very powerful bombs) a few days before his death.

UPDATE at 10/5/05 7:09:14 pm:

I’m starting to think this was a work accident (lgf: search.)

05:53 PM PDT | link: 349 comments

OU SUICIDE BOMBER: Jayna Davis radio schedule; Jayna names the reporter kissing up to Muslims

Officer had clue before OU blast (police admit knowledge of attempted ammonium nitrate buy)

University of Oklahoma Bomber -- New Information, Updated Links

Developing Bump

Thanks for the

Bring
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Outstanding Job!

Thanks, Race- here's a little more:

Didn't know if you heard about this too:

Per KTOK...

2nd Violent Suicide On Higher Ed Campus Wednesday, October 5, 2005 at 6:08pm For the second time in less than a week, a violent suicide has occurred on an Oklahoma school campus. A former student shot and killed herself today in front of a startled deputy on the Francis Tuttle Technology Center in Oklahoma City.

By Jerry Bohnen

Four days after a student killed himself with a bomb on the OU campus, a former student at the Francis Tuttle Technology Center shot and killed herself in front of a sheriff's deputy. Police say the late afternoon shooting today occurred in the school's Information Technology building. A spokesman on the campus at 12777 North Rockwell said the woman pulled out a handgun and shot herself in the head after she was confronted by the Oklahoma County sheriff's deputy. No one else, including the startled deputy was injured in the shooting. Classes at the Information Technology center were cancelled for the night and tomorrow.

4,470 posted on 10/06/2005 10:17:15 AM EDT by Ros42

Some*sensational* (and I don't mean "wonderful") stuff from some of the linked blogs, since I can't access video or audio, to just put here, but not for its credibility. Grain of salt time.

."They found around 400 pounds of explosives in Mr. Hinrich's car and over 1,000 pounds in his apartment on campus."

... latest info (ticket to Algeria, 5 others possibly involved, etc)

Updated FR list-o-links with brief descriptions (Update 3 on 10/06/2005). This list will be updated as new threads are posted.

Main thread with tons of useful info and breaking news from day one, Oct. 01
Joel jihad identification thread, Oct. 02
Bomb material found thread, Oct. 02
Explosive stash found thread, Oct. 03
Joel Jihad tries to buy Ammonium Nitrate thread, Oct. 04
OK City Channel 9 story thread, Oct. 04
Malkin blog posts thread, Oct. 04
Sources ID TATP thread, Oct. 04
Roomie identified thread, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 1, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 2, Oct. 05
Boren bio, Oct. 05
DougFromUpland interview with Jayna Davis thread, Oct. 05
Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found, Oct. 05. Must-read thread
Officer had clue before OU blast; Oct. 06
Jayna Davis’ radio schedule…check it out; Oct. 06
Updated links; some consolidated info from other FR threads….check it out; Oct. 06

Great work - bttt.