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Virginia Gov Race: Kilgore (R) Refuses to Answer Gun Survey
Virginia Citizen's Defense League ^ | 10/04/2005 | Philip Van Cleave

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:18 PM PDT by BlackRain

The Virginia Citizens Defense League is non-partisan. We are only asking all the candidates to take a position on specific issues of concern to Virginia's gun owners, so that gun owners might make an informed choice. We believe this to be a reasonable request, and remain perplexed by the hostility that this has generated from the Kilgore campaign.

The emails on which I have been cc'ed from gun owners across the state run the gamut from *pleading* with Mr. Kilgore to answer the VCDL survey and take a stand on gun rights, to furious gun owners saying that they have removed Kilgore campaign signs from their lawns and offices and Kilgore bumper stickers from their vehicles.

The sheer frustration of gun owners is apparent in various Internet chat rooms. Here are a few samplings:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=211454 http://www.packing.org/community/laws_politics/listview/2632

BTW, the Kilgore campaign web site no longer has email links or contact info for the key campaign staff. Too much incoming email?

Technical snafu?

On the positive side Kilgore's site has put up a Second Amendment item link on the front page of the web site. I don't recall that being there before.

Russ Potts' web site makes no mention of firearms that I could find.

Tim Kaine has a Second Amendment section on his site.

The VCDL surveys (including Tim Kaine's survey) and the Delegate voting record for the last two years will be posted on the VCDL web site next week. I will send an alert as soon as it is up. VCDL's vice president, Jim Snyder, is working on this. I have seen a preliminary web page and it is going to be easy to use and really look great!

Candidates Kilgore and Potts still have time to get their surveys in. But that time is up the second that Kaine's survey, and the other Delegate surveys, are posted on the VCDL site.

Finally, I was asked, and quite fairly, by a member, "Would VCDL have put up this big of a fight to get a survey from *Kaine* if Kilgore had turned in his survey, but Kaine had not?"

YOU BET! If a candidate for Governor is running on being gun friendly and is asking for the support of gun owners, we are going to fight to get that candidate to turn in his or her survey until either we get it or time is up.

Tim Kaine stepped up to the podium. Now the question is will Jerry Kilgore and Russ Potts be no-shows or are they going to help us make an informed decision come November 8th?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; bangl; banglist; gun; ist; jerrykilgore; kilgore; nra; rinowatch; vcdl; virginia
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Many gun owners are speculating about why Kilgore (a Republican) refuses to answer basic questions about his position on gun law in Virginia.

Are we dealing with a RINO here?

1 posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:20 PM PDT by BlackRain
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To: BlackRain

Kilgore is strong on protecting gun ownership. Heck his campaign is at every gun show in the state of Va.


2 posted on 10/04/2005 12:12:59 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Reagan79

Really?

What evidence do you have? What are his positions on gun control?

That's the problem, no one knows.

I helped campaign for him and signed the petitions to get his name on the ballot.

But, I am not lifting a damn finger or contributing another penny until he answers the survey.


3 posted on 10/04/2005 12:16:05 PM PDT by BlackRain (Only a mediocre person is always at his best. - William Somerset Maugham)
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To: BlackRain

I will tell you what. I have a Kilgore for Governor sign posted on my property. If he will not take a position on this matter, I simply will not vote at all and see what happens.


4 posted on 10/04/2005 12:21:15 PM PDT by olezip
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To: BlackRain

The more important question is, if KG loses, who wins?


5 posted on 10/04/2005 12:24:03 PM PDT by Killborn (God bless the rescuers, God bless the Commander in Chief, and God bless America.)
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To: olezip

It is simple courtesy that is lacking from Kilgore.

Many of us did the leg work, were at the gun shows, signed the petitions, donated money to his campaign.

We are his base - Virginia Republicans.

Then when asked to simply fill out an election survey on his position on gun rights and legislation, Kilgore refuses?

This stinks to high heaven. He used us.


6 posted on 10/04/2005 12:25:12 PM PDT by BlackRain (Only a mediocre person is always at his best. - William Somerset Maugham)
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To: BlackRain

Didn't Tim Kaine join Jenny Granholm and back the "million" moron march?


7 posted on 10/04/2005 12:27:12 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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To: BlackRain

Not filling the survey out is only half of the story. The other half is that he found it necessary to dump on the VCDL as a cover. What sort of person would do this sort of thing?


8 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:33 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: BlackRain
Virginia Citizens Defense League

Who?

9 posted on 10/04/2005 12:51:09 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: 556x45

A Rino.


10 posted on 10/04/2005 12:52:07 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: olezip
....I simply will not vote at all and see what happens.

If you are not voting out of protest then there is no way your vote can be quantified as a protest. I suggest you write in a candidate. Quite a few folks are writing in the name "Phillip VanCleave". He is the president of the VCDL.

If there are a couple thousand (or more) votes for Mr. VanCleave (or any candidate)on election day it warrants recognition by the media. If the race is as close as everyone says and Kilgore loses, He will be able to see that and know why.

11 posted on 10/04/2005 1:28:42 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: BlackRain

"Then when asked to simply fill out an election survey on his position on gun rights and legislation, Kilgore refuses?"



I don't know why he didn't answer the survey, and neither do you. But if you want to learn about Kilgore's and Kaine's views on gun control, save yourself some time and check out their NRA ratings. The NRA gives Kilgore an "A" rating and endorsed him as Attorney General in the 2001 general election and as Governor in the 2005 GOP primary. Kaine, on the other hand, has an "F" rating from the NRA (defined as "a true enemy of gun-owners rights"). If you truly care about the right to keep and bear arms, you should support Kilgore and disregard whether or not he answers that survey.


12 posted on 10/04/2005 1:28:49 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AppyPappy
Virginia Citizens Defense League
13 posted on 10/04/2005 1:29:51 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: P8riot

"If the race is as close as everyone says and Kilgore loses, He will be able to see that and know why."



And gun-grabber Kain will be the Governor. Yay!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.


14 posted on 10/04/2005 1:31:02 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: BlackRain; Rodney King; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; ...
Are we dealing with a RINO here?

While I don't know why Kilgore has not addressed the VCDL survey, I DO know that Jerry Kilgore is no RINO.

He HAS been endorsed by the Virginia Shooting Sports Association and by the NRA Political Victory Fund.

And let's be clear (and honest) about our choices here. As much as Timmy Kaine says he is pro 2nd Amendment, he used Richmond City funds to pay for buses to the Million Moo March. He was embarrassed into reimbursing the city from his own funds.

He's no friend to gun owners.

15 posted on 10/04/2005 1:31:46 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (You are stuck on stupid, I’m not going to answer that question ~ General Honore)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

We cannot afford Kaine, who has a F rating from the NRA.

We must all support Kilgore (A rating from NRA) and work to encourage him to make positive changes.

Kaine is NOT able.......


16 posted on 10/04/2005 1:34:41 PM PDT by Gopher Broke (Abortion: Big people killing little people)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Don't get me wrong. I am not advocating protest votes. I am just telling him that in order for his protest to count it has to be quantifiable. You can't count a non-vote, unless you are a Palm Beach County Democrat.

Personally I do not want Kaine to win. But Jerry Kilgore's team's got some 'splainin to do.


17 posted on 10/04/2005 1:36:54 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I have to say I am about over all the doom and gloomers who seem to refuse to look at ALL the facts before pontificating about how someone is a RINO or worse.

I've got my concerns about the governor's race - but it sure as heck is not on the 2nd Amendment. Kilgore's position is entirely clear on that.

Hubby knows he has to reset the Kilgore sign in the yard when he gets home from work (it got blown down over night, but things were hectic around here this morning)


18 posted on 10/04/2005 1:56:16 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gopher Broke
Kaine is NOT able.......

BINGO!!!!!!!!

19 posted on 10/04/2005 1:57:14 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Exactly. There are definite concerns.

But anyone who doesn't see that Jerry is the best candidate on 2nd Amendment issues just isn't paying attention.


20 posted on 10/04/2005 1:58:39 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (You are stuck on stupid, I’m not going to answer that question ~ General Honore)
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