Personally I do not want Kaine to win. But Jerry Kilgore's team's got some 'splainin to do.
Posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:18 PM PDT by BlackRain
The Virginia Citizens Defense League is non-partisan. We are only asking all the candidates to take a position on specific issues of concern to Virginia's gun owners, so that gun owners might make an informed choice. We believe this to be a reasonable request, and remain perplexed by the hostility that this has generated from the Kilgore campaign.
The emails on which I have been cc'ed from gun owners across the state run the gamut from *pleading* with Mr. Kilgore to answer the VCDL survey and take a stand on gun rights, to furious gun owners saying that they have removed Kilgore campaign signs from their lawns and offices and Kilgore bumper stickers from their vehicles.
The sheer frustration of gun owners is apparent in various Internet chat rooms. Here are a few samplings:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=211454 http://www.packing.org/community/laws_politics/listview/2632
BTW, the Kilgore campaign web site no longer has email links or contact info for the key campaign staff. Too much incoming email?
Technical snafu?
On the positive side Kilgore's site has put up a Second Amendment item link on the front page of the web site. I don't recall that being there before.
Russ Potts' web site makes no mention of firearms that I could find.
Tim Kaine has a Second Amendment section on his site.
The VCDL surveys (including Tim Kaine's survey) and the Delegate voting record for the last two years will be posted on the VCDL web site next week. I will send an alert as soon as it is up. VCDL's vice president, Jim Snyder, is working on this. I have seen a preliminary web page and it is going to be easy to use and really look great!
Candidates Kilgore and Potts still have time to get their surveys in. But that time is up the second that Kaine's survey, and the other Delegate surveys, are posted on the VCDL site.
Finally, I was asked, and quite fairly, by a member, "Would VCDL have put up this big of a fight to get a survey from *Kaine* if Kilgore had turned in his survey, but Kaine had not?"
YOU BET! If a candidate for Governor is running on being gun friendly and is asking for the support of gun owners, we are going to fight to get that candidate to turn in his or her survey until either we get it or time is up.
Tim Kaine stepped up to the podium. Now the question is will Jerry Kilgore and Russ Potts be no-shows or are they going to help us make an informed decision come November 8th?
Are we dealing with a RINO here?
Kilgore is strong on protecting gun ownership. Heck his campaign is at every gun show in the state of Va.
Really?
What evidence do you have? What are his positions on gun control?
That's the problem, no one knows.
I helped campaign for him and signed the petitions to get his name on the ballot.
But, I am not lifting a damn finger or contributing another penny until he answers the survey.
I will tell you what. I have a Kilgore for Governor sign posted on my property. If he will not take a position on this matter, I simply will not vote at all and see what happens.
The more important question is, if KG loses, who wins?
It is simple courtesy that is lacking from Kilgore.
Many of us did the leg work, were at the gun shows, signed the petitions, donated money to his campaign.
We are his base - Virginia Republicans.
Then when asked to simply fill out an election survey on his position on gun rights and legislation, Kilgore refuses?
This stinks to high heaven. He used us.
Didn't Tim Kaine join Jenny Granholm and back the "million" moron march?
Not filling the survey out is only half of the story. The other half is that he found it necessary to dump on the VCDL as a cover. What sort of person would do this sort of thing?
Who?
A Rino.
If you are not voting out of protest then there is no way your vote can be quantified as a protest. I suggest you write in a candidate. Quite a few folks are writing in the name "Phillip VanCleave". He is the president of the VCDL.
If there are a couple thousand (or more) votes for Mr. VanCleave (or any candidate)on election day it warrants recognition by the media. If the race is as close as everyone says and Kilgore loses, He will be able to see that and know why.
"Then when asked to simply fill out an election survey on his position on gun rights and legislation, Kilgore refuses?"
"If the race is as close as everyone says and Kilgore loses, He will be able to see that and know why."
While I don't know why Kilgore has not addressed the VCDL survey, I DO know that Jerry Kilgore is no RINO.
He HAS been endorsed by the Virginia Shooting Sports Association and by the NRA Political Victory Fund.
And let's be clear (and honest) about our choices here. As much as Timmy Kaine says he is pro 2nd Amendment, he used Richmond City funds to pay for buses to the Million Moo March. He was embarrassed into reimbursing the city from his own funds.
He's no friend to gun owners.
We cannot afford Kaine, who has a F rating from the NRA.
We must all support Kilgore (A rating from NRA) and work to encourage him to make positive changes.
Kaine is NOT able.......
Personally I do not want Kaine to win. But Jerry Kilgore's team's got some 'splainin to do.
I have to say I am about over all the doom and gloomers who seem to refuse to look at ALL the facts before pontificating about how someone is a RINO or worse.
I've got my concerns about the governor's race - but it sure as heck is not on the 2nd Amendment. Kilgore's position is entirely clear on that.
Hubby knows he has to reset the Kilgore sign in the yard when he gets home from work (it got blown down over night, but things were hectic around here this morning)
BINGO!!!!!!!!
Exactly. There are definite concerns.
But anyone who doesn't see that Jerry is the best candidate on 2nd Amendment issues just isn't paying attention.
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