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Bush Wants Right To Use Military If Bird Flu Hits
Reuters ^ | 10/4/05

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush asked Congress on Tuesday to consider giving him powers to use the military to enforce quarantines in case of an avian influenza epidemic.

He said the military, and perhaps the National Guard, might be needed to take such a role if the feared H5N1 bird flu virus changes enough to cause widespread human infection.

"If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country? And how do you, then, enforce a quarantine?" Bush asked at a news conference.

"It's one thing to shut down airplanes. It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu. And who best to be able to effect a quarantine?" Bush added.

"One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move. So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

Bird flu has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe.

Experts fear that the H5N1 bird flu virus, which appears to be highly fatal when it infects people, will develop the ability to pass easily from person to person and would cause a pandemic that would kill millions.

"And I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," Bush said.

He noted that some governors may object to the federal government commandeering the National Guard, which is under state command in most circumstances.

POLICE DUTIES BANNED

"But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak," Bush said.

The active duty military is currently forbidden from undertaking law enforcement duties by the federal Posse Comitatus Act.

That law, passed in 1878 after the U.S. Civil War, does not prohibit National Guard troops under state control from doing police work. But, unless the law is changed, it would keep them from doing so if they were activated by Washington under federal control.

While the law allows the president to order the military to take control and do police work in an extreme emergency, the White House has been traditionally reluctant to usurp state powers.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters he was not aware of any current planning by the military to help respond to a flu pandemic.

But he noted that after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf region, Bush had asked Congress to consider giving the military control over initial response in dealing with major natural or other domestic disasters.

"Obviously the (Defense) Department has a tremendous amount of capability in a lot of areas. And we are a large force," Whitman said, noting also that the military had deployed field hospitals to Louisiana after the hurricanes.

Health experts are working to develop vaccines that would protect against the H5N1 strain of flu, because current influenza vaccines will not.

And countries are also developing stockpiles of drugs that can reduce the risk of serious disease or even sometimes prevent infection -- but supplies and manufacturing capacity are both limited.

Bush said he was involved in planning for an influenza pandemic, which experts say will definitely come, although they cannot predict when, or whether it will be H5N1 or some other virus. (Additional reporting by Maggie Fox)


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To: Gimme

If they cough, you must cut them off.


361 posted on 10/05/2005 2:26:22 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: pbrown

"...everything but an asteroid."

That asteroid may take the form of the Avian Flu. I can't figure it out. Only 100+ cases outside the US, yet "they" predict this pandemic. Don't know if it's hysteria or what. BTW, I have always thought Bush as a good man and that's not going to change. God Bless him!!


362 posted on 10/05/2005 2:41:29 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: Sabramerican

"If they cough, you must cut them off."

LOL .. if what coughs? Chickens?


363 posted on 10/05/2005 2:43:30 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: areafiftyone
Build more towers!

Read the thread running - 400 birds in ONE NIGHT! :P
364 posted on 10/05/2005 2:46:08 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: Gimme
This has been coming for a while. Whether it gets here this cold and flu season I don't know. I just know that a massive plan needs to have the kinks worked out before it does strike here. There are many people who can't seem to grasp the numbers involved in such a potential wide spread tragedy. I believe it will make the 1918 epidemic look like a cake walk. Bush just wants a plan in place should the unthinkable happen, and some on here are crucifying him for merely suggesting it. I would prefer to have a plan and not need it, than need it and not have it.

That poor man, what he's had to endure in his presidency, a lesser man could not do. God bless him.

365 posted on 10/05/2005 2:57:28 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Gimme

Thanks Gimme!


366 posted on 10/05/2005 2:57:56 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: pbrown

You are so right. I was thinking of that today. He has had more to deal with than most Presidents have had.

I expect all the constant bashing form the left, but not here. That's why I come here, for some sanity.
It seems that this may not be the place either.


367 posted on 10/05/2005 4:01:32 PM PDT by amutr22 (....not ANOTHER clinton!)
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To: amutr22
I wouldn't want his job for all the tea in China. He has my respect for putting up will all the cr@p he has had to put up with...from the left and the right.

My son was telling me just a minute ago that Bush has had the worst luck as president. I told him that's not true. Bush is our president because maybe God saw that he would be able to handle everything that was going to be thrown at him. That it was his destiny to be our president at this time. The load he has too carry is staggering, and I respect him for keeping his head above all the backstabbing and name calling.

God bless him and keep him strong.

368 posted on 10/05/2005 4:14:26 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

I am with you on that. Wish more were.


369 posted on 10/05/2005 4:23:42 PM PDT by amutr22 (....not ANOTHER clinton!)
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To: amutr22

I wish more were as well. :-(


370 posted on 10/05/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Was that OBTUSE enough for ya?

I guess you should look up the definition of obtuse.

If not, we can take this to the back alley I've heard so much about.

The back alley? Wow! You gonna beat me up momma? LOL

I can't let a jerk get the last word.

And I should grow up? LOL. Lady Liberal, you are a laugh riot!


371 posted on 10/05/2005 7:00:27 PM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: Protagoras
Obtuse---blunt

The back alley? Wow! You gonna beat me up momma? LOL

That doesn't sound too bad to me.

You didn't deny you were a jerk....shoe fits huh. I thought it did.

372 posted on 10/05/2005 7:16:38 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Protagoras

As an after thought miss, you're wasting time posting your childish pictures...I block them.


373 posted on 10/05/2005 7:18:19 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Obtuse doesnt mean blunt, it means dim witted.

ob·tuse (b-ts, -tys, b-) KEY ADJECTIVE: Lacking quickness of perception or intellect.

374 posted on 10/05/2005 9:02:09 PM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: Protagoras
Slow in understanding...me? What an obtuse statement.

You're obtuse. Guess which meaning I'm associating with you?

So, are you afraid to meet me in the back ally little lady?

375 posted on 10/05/2005 9:17:59 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
ally = alley

I'm tired. We'll pick up where we left off tomorrow. Right, Little Lady?

376 posted on 10/05/2005 9:27:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
You seem obsessed with fantasizing about me as a female. Maybe you have an orientation problem? :^}

Anyway, it's been fun toying with you my little leftist friend, look me up any time you need help with your misunderstanding of fundamental things.

In the mean time, try not to support any more leftwing politicians who destroyed the country. Ta Ta for now.

377 posted on 10/06/2005 6:20:03 AM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: Protagoras
You post like a woman, you're catty like a woman. why does it bother you that I refer to you in the female sense? You're not a little lady?

I'm not a leftist lady, but that doesn't seem to stop you from referring to me in that sense. Don't get your hackles up ma'am.

378 posted on 10/06/2005 8:34:53 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
"Makes me feel like I need meds or something."

You had it right.

379 posted on 10/06/2005 8:40:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (I often employ hyperbole to make a point)
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To: pbrown

Just in case it hasn't been posted yet.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/index.html


380 posted on 10/06/2005 8:46:01 AM PDT by greatvikingone (These are the times that try men's souls...)
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