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Oklahoma bomber had jihad material
World Net Daily.com ^ | October 4, 2005 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 10/04/2005 2:49:20 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

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To: sono

I think the point is that when you see a story of obvious news value 100% ignored by major media, it adds credibility to the assumption that other events of possible terrorist-related activity which were eventually explained away could in fact have been similarly squelched.

This story will end with this guy being a depressed sick person who wanted to kill himself by blowing himself up, and who had a backpack with more explosives which he did not detonate which was later detonated by the police but subsequently un-occurred and did not happen.


121 posted on 10/04/2005 3:16:05 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: sono

I will add one thing - if this kid had gotten onto the field at halftime, gone to the center of the field with no one anywhere near, and killed himself (bomb or not), it WOULD be on the national news, and it would be obvious the motive was suicide since there was no one within say 30 years or whatever (hypothetical). The MSM likes dramatic public suicides, especially if they involve flyover country devices like guns and bombs. Guns are bad, bombs are bad, bomb instructions on the internet are bad, etc....

Instead there is an event much more suspicious in nature, with the obvoius question of terrorist intent, and the media say NOTHING.


122 posted on 10/04/2005 3:25:25 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: ovrtaxt

This is being discussed on Michael Savage program now.


123 posted on 10/04/2005 3:59:09 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ovrtaxt

Bump.


124 posted on 10/04/2005 6:33:18 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: nicmarlo

Have you heard about this? MSM not reporting...


125 posted on 10/04/2005 6:48:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: ovrtaxt

Freeper posted this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496731/posts

Oklahoma's Channel 9 is picking up the story.


126 posted on 10/04/2005 6:51:39 PM PDT by milford421
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To: ovrtaxt
TATP is the favorite explosive of Palestinian bombers. It is easily made from materials that a knowledgeable person can buy at the local hardware/food store. It lacks nitrates, thus is more easily slipped past explosive detection systems that are optimized to look for nitrate type compounds.

TATP is shock sensitive and very unstable. While easy to make, it is also easy to spatter yourself. Richard Reid's shoe bomb used a TATP detonator mixed with a more substantial PETN explosive.

127 posted on 10/04/2005 6:58:34 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Borax Queen

Yes, I have. That very very long thread has lots of information about this on it.


128 posted on 10/04/2005 7:01:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: martin_fierro
Illegal Mexican Immigrant or Islamic Terrorist?

The graphic concept is misleading.

Reason being that Islamic terrorists are far more likely to infiltrate over the northern border than the southern border.

While the appearance may be superficially similar, the Islamic terrorist is far more likely to speak English than Spanish.

Fact is that most Islamists would have no indigenous support group in Mexico and would stick out like a sore thumb. But they would find entry into Canada a relatively simple matter and be able to affiliate with numerous communities once in-country.

Accordingly, for the purpose of controlling terrorism, the security of our northern border is more important than the southern border.

129 posted on 10/04/2005 7:02:51 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Hey.

The die has spoken.

130 posted on 10/04/2005 7:06:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( ° ¿ ° )_oooo_____)
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To: Borax Queen
Have you heard about this? MSM not reporting...

Yes and Yes, as usual.....

131 posted on 10/04/2005 8:27:56 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: cripplecreek
Jihad sympathizers

What is it about those two words together that make it so hard to put together a comprehensible thought?

132 posted on 10/04/2005 8:32:44 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: ovrtaxt

There was an outstanding Savage program last night with this as the main issue. The guest host was Rick .. eh... my apologies to him! Excellent deep voice. Regardless, he brought up this entire matter, including the Islamic material. People were not a bit stunned that the media blacked it out. No surprises.

It got me thinking. People I've talked with 'on the street'. They don't buy everything the government says either. Very few do. There is an unusually high percentage of pro-establishment-on-steroid types here on the FR. It's artificial, causing the FR to lose touch with the street in some ways. And it's the street that counts.


133 posted on 10/05/2005 4:19:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ovrtaxt:"We're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't." FR/focus/news/1496223/posts?page=44#44)
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To: oolatec

"Why do people still believe WND? I cannot remember the last time they were correct about anything."

Well you can't take this coup away from WND. They stuck to their guns, and local people there are backing them up that there was, indeed, an explosion there. The rest of the media went AWOL. Even most of talk radio went AWOL.

This one particular point is sourced. I checked his website. He was not misquoted. This report is accurate. So guess what? You are incorrect, because this report is correct. If it's a hoax, it would be a hoax by the source. Show me where WND is incorrect in THIS report? Then please explain why you slandered our old friends who helped the FR get recognized and got audited by the Clintonista.


134 posted on 10/05/2005 4:30:51 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ovrtaxt:"We're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't." FR/focus/news/1496223/posts?page=44#44)
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To: WoofDog123

"The fact that this has been buried so blatantly adds great credibility to my long-held belief that other newsworthy items were buried as well, at least as far back as the mid-90's."

Bingo! That's one reason why I've been hammering this so hard. We conspiracy theorists have been chased around with a lot of tinfoil for a lot of years, and guess what? This forum was founded by conspiracy theorists. We can rub their noses and wipe our shoes on this one.

It's conspiracy theorists who have the real dirt on the Clintons and rats in general. And Able Danger re-opens the Ron Brown can of worms too. One man lost his clearance in Able Danger, for all to see. But in the Ron Brown Crash, four forensics specialists were drummed out of the military, and one of them [Kathleen Janoski] was even threatened with the death penalty.

Combine Able Danger with the OKC Suicide Bomber, and the tinfoil squad has it's hands full. I'd even say they've been getting a little demoralized lately.


135 posted on 10/05/2005 4:56:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ovrtaxt:"We're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't." FR/focus/news/1496223/posts?page=44#44)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

"But in the Ron Brown Crash, four forensics specialists were drummed out of the military, and one of them [Kathleen Janoski] was even threatened with the death penalty."

How many of them are still alive?


136 posted on 10/05/2005 6:27:37 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

They were all alive five years later, and on the five year anniversary, all of them stood by what they said. As for any recent deaths, no idea. A book came out recently about it and promoted guess where? WND. And critized where? Here on the FR by the usual crowd.


137 posted on 10/05/2005 6:30:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ovrtaxt:"We're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't." FR/focus/news/1496223/posts?page=44#44)
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To: Cindy

Thanks for thr links Cindy.


138 posted on 10/06/2005 8:40:11 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: kimosabe31

You're welcome kimosabe.


139 posted on 10/06/2005 8:48:48 PM PDT by Cindy
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