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The Coming Explosion Over Miers – Redux (Too many conservatives going off half-cocked.)
The American Thinker ^ | October 3, 2005 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/03/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by quidnunc

Rush Limbaugh has found the information that Harriet Miers is an evangelical Christian, a member of a church in Dallas that most would describe as "fundamentalist." I believe that this vindicates my earlier analysis based on mistaken information about a Ministry supported by Ms. Miers.

Blue state fundamentalists tend to hate evangelicals the way that Islamists hate Jews: viscerally. It will take enormous willpower for many of them to avoid saying that one who believes in the literal word of the Bible should not be allowed a place on the Supreme Court. They played footsie with the position that a devout Catholic would be disqaualified.

To partially quote my earlier post: this is a battle the Democrat left can't win with a majority of the American public, which sees religious faith as a good thing. As far as I am concerned about the coming attacks, Dirty Harry summed up my feelings: "Go ahead — make my day."

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(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Amen! I trust George W. Bush!

Conservatives are forgetting the seminal moment that is the DNA root of GWB's quest for the presidency. It is a moment that truly tells us everything we need to know about GWB. It was not 9/11. . although it was certainly manifested there. . it was earlier, during the Presidential primaries before he was even elected. It was at a debate of the major Republican candidates. Each was asked, "which philosopher do you admire and why?". . .Plato was mentioned, Aristotle, the usual acceptable answers.

Then it comes to W. . .and what does W say?. . he gives an answer that, from the prespective of political strategy, was a disaster. Do you remember his answer? I do...and it's why I LOVE GEORGE W. BUSH! He said, "Jesus Christ. . .because he changed my heart!"

Now, I'm going to tell you something and you can call me a nutjob. .but I believe, right then and there, GOD CHOSE GWB to be our president. GWB is a man who believes these words, "Blessed are ye when men shall revile you and speak all manner of evil against you falsely, for mine name sake, REJOICE, BE EXCEEDINGLY glad for great is your reward in heaven, for so persecuted they, the prophets, which were before you!!!

I believe Ms. Miers is a woman of prayer and deep faith who, like GWB, listens to God!

121 posted on 10/03/2005 6:01:39 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
"You do not have to be a great lawyer to be elected President of a state bar ass'n."

Who said anything about being a great lawyer? I mean she is a good person with a good head on her shoulders who can get along with people. This is NOT just any old state, this is the state bar association of TEXAS! As you should know, Texans are some special folks. They have good hearts and practice a deeply practical conservatism.

Squawk as much as you like about this nomination, it is a done deal and all your squawking and complaining are a waste of time and energy. I hope that at least it makes you feel better or more important or something.
122 posted on 10/03/2005 6:02:36 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Judith Anne
Guess I should read the whole thread next time.
123 posted on 10/03/2005 6:05:12 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

You know what could happen?

Reid could say, "I was duped, the battle is ON!" and there could be an enormous knock-down drag-out fight over Mier.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

I noted earlier and will repeat it for the record, President Bush nominated her today--MONDAY!--with many news cycles ahead. I do believe this is not a cut-and-dried issue, a foregone conclusion.

I think trouble lies ahead. And I think the Dems will, as usual, overplay their hand. Furthermore, I think it will be on the evangelical Christian issue.


124 posted on 10/03/2005 6:05:27 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Luttig would have been good, I agree. I am sure the President considered nominating him and the others on your short list, but for his own reasons, which we will probably never know, decided that Miers was the best way to go. He may be wrong, but he is operating with more complete information than we have.
125 posted on 10/03/2005 6:05:35 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Nuc1: "What is unforgivable is to loose this opportunity to finally show some metal."

Ninian Dryhope: I think you mean lose this opportunity to show some mettle,

No, he thought he was posting on the "Iron Maiden Reunion Tour Cancelled" thread.

126 posted on 10/03/2005 6:05:36 PM PDT by Skylab
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To: CFC__VRWC

No problem. Looking back I sure made an ignorant statement. ;-D


127 posted on 10/03/2005 6:07:57 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

"The President knows her well and if he likes her, I like
her."

Well, it makes no difference to G.W. He will be out of office and enjoying the perks as ex-pres.

My children and grandchildren will have to suffer for many years under a liberal Supreme Court.

This woman is the darling of the liberals.

That is enough for me.

The battle is over.


128 posted on 10/03/2005 6:08:04 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: quidnunc
Blue state fundamentalists tend to hate evangelicals

huh?

129 posted on 10/03/2005 6:08:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (stealth schmealth)
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To: JustAnotherOkie

I dunno..Ginsberg is looking kind of sickly...maybe 3 picks? Or was she always looking sick?


130 posted on 10/03/2005 6:08:50 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Carry_Okie
"Guaranteed, any likely candidate graduated long before that depraved standard became nearly as universal as it is now."

Not so. The intellectual trends that are popular now have been popular for decades throughout the entire Western world. The father of modern Deconstruction, Martin Heidegger, was a member of the Nazi Party. Paul de Man wrote pro-Nazi articles in his native Belgium. The radical historicist view has also been popular since the 1930s.

All of this was taken up by various French intellectuals in the 60s, sure, but the underlying philosophy that is now all the rage at Yale and Princeton has been around for a very long time.

We don't need anyone who's an unknown *and* a graduate of an elite law school. Ann Coulter is exactly wrong.

131 posted on 10/03/2005 6:09:06 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: VRWCTexan
The problem for me is precisely that she is an "unknown". I have posted several times today, essentially defending the President on the basis that a true, known Conservative judge with a paper trail would not make it through the confirmation process in the absence of a Senate majority (which we Conservatives do not yet have).

I still believe - given the fine choices available to him - that he ought to have at least tried. Let the 'rats turn down a Brown or a Luttig or an Owens - and then have to twist themselves into logical pretzels to explain it. Ultimately, the problem is not George Bush - it's us: the American people, a majority of whom don't really want an "originalist" who might take away the legalistic justifications for Big Gummint goodies and abortion on demand. As for Ms. Miers - who knows what she believes or how she'll act? All I know is that when the likes of Harry Reid thinks she's acceptable, Conservatives ought to be nervous.

132 posted on 10/03/2005 6:09:51 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Republican Red

Damn. Maybe those who said Roberts was on the wrong side were correct.


133 posted on 10/03/2005 6:10:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Do you seriously believe that? The only reason he didn't nominate them was he didn't have the guts to go to the mat for them.


134 posted on 10/03/2005 6:11:05 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: quidnunc
What they don't seem to understand is that the GOP is by no means assured of winning such a fight.

Yep, if W forces his own party to abandon him the GOP comes apart at the seams and the RATS die laughing. This could go down as another brilliant move on Roves part, the RATS seem to be bamboozled with this pick or W is a flat out liar and has tricked us all. My feeling is W is a man of his word.
135 posted on 10/03/2005 6:12:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RATS trolls on this site are stuck on stupid)
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To: andy58-in-nh

My thinking too.


136 posted on 10/03/2005 6:12:22 PM PDT by dmw
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Do you have facts to support the assumption that she is not?


137 posted on 10/03/2005 6:13:04 PM PDT by carton253 (It's better to have a gun and not need it than not have a gun and need it.)
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To: Looper
Here are the four who probably wouldn't have supported a hard-line conservative: Snowe, Collins, Chaffee, Spector. That's four.

Add to them the cowards who whine about stuff (one even CRIED when he refused to vote for Bolton): Voinovich, Dewine, Graham, and Lugar. That makes 8 possible no votes.

Now, to that add McCain and Hagel, the nut-case wild cards, and you have 10 possible no votes.

In a situation like this, you would get NO democrat votes. None, zero, zip.

So, you could end up with only 45 Yes votes for a conservative nominee. We still lose, and the President looks weak.

Then, of course, we would be treated to all sorts of "the conservative movement is dead" articles, the party would split, we would probably lose one house of Congress in 2006, and we would go into the 2008 primaries with a fractured party.

I do not think a fight is worth the risk, especially if this nominee is really a conservative.

I still don't understand why I am to believe Mark Levin and Ann Coulter over Dick Cheney, James Dobson, and the President.

138 posted on 10/03/2005 6:13:26 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: ottersnot
...There are plenty of qualified female candidates with more experience, that would also not raise such a stink, that could get through a nomination.... Don't forget YOUNGER too! Get someone 15+ years younger and young and its worth two picks.
139 posted on 10/03/2005 6:14:21 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: mdefranc

"exercise of unlimited, unaccountable power greatly extends one's longevity."

Once they get it, they sure hate to give it up, that's true. Rehnquist died in his traces. a couple years at least after he should have retired.


140 posted on 10/03/2005 6:14:45 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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