Giuliani: I'm Considering 2008 Bid

NewsMax ^ | 10/2/05 | AP

[Political Junkie Too]

Do you think a Giuliani candidacy would be more palatable with a certifiably conservative Supreme Court to balance a moderate/liberal Executive? If so, then it is even more imperative that we keep control of Congress in 2006 to keep the balance of separated powers in our favor.

-PJ

[ContraryMary]

Giuliani would never survive the primaries. That is why he is unelectable at the national level.

When push comes to shove and Rudy is the Republicans' best hope, Pat Robertson and company will bring the social conservatives to the table. Rudy will soften a bit here and there, and there will be a "meeting of the minds" between Rudy and the conservative leaders.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I feel the same, but if he runs against the Hildabeast,
I'm for Guili!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Here's a quick google link regarding your quote. I made it fairly selective, only 17 hits:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=Rudy+Giuliani+%22June+10%2C+1994%22&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=New+York+Times&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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[vrwc0915]

[DTogo]

It appears that our conservative President W has been AWOL on The Deficit and Immigration.

Conservative? Really? Since when?

[gpapa]

***social zealots***

Who are the social zealots in the Republican Party?

Are you suggesting that the Republicans rewrite the party platform and remove all references to social issues?

I could not say it any better than Jim Robinson himself.

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

[Alberta's Child]

The single most important quality for any presidential candidate is that he must come across as "presidential material" -- i.e., he must "look presidential" and "act presidential."

This is why presidential candidates lose a substantial number of moderate voters any time they appear like this in photographs:

Giuliani's appearance in drag in a Broadway show in and of itself would have been bad enough, but when you couple that with his marital problems and his bizarre living arrangements late in his term as New York mayor (he was sharing living quarters with a gay couple in Manhattan while his ex-wife -- who had no formal position with the City of New York -- occupied the mayor's residence at Gracie Mansion) . . . well, you can be rest assured that nobody with even a minimal desire for an emotionally stable President is going to vote for him.

[Alberta's Child]

And I'm not a man.

Uh, OK -- I shoulda known better than to assume that. LOL.

Sorry about that.

[Alberta's Child]

I once saw Rudy Giuliani in person on a street corner in Manhattan (before he was mayor), and the one thing that shocked the heck out of me was how short the guy was.

His "speech impediment" isn't a New York accent, either -- it's a lisp.

If he were a serious candidate, I'd say stick a fork in him, 'cause he's done. However, I've said here for a long time that he is not -- nor will he ever be -- a serious White House contender.

[HairOfTheDog]

He was stable when it counted as far as I'm concerned. The rest is tedious bellering.

[Always Right]

If Republicans believe social issues will be at the fore in 2008, they are political suicidal.

What is real political suicide is for the GOP to abandon social issues.

[sono]

"Ma, Ma, Where's My Pa? Gone to the White House - Ha Ha Ha!"
Arguably the nadir of American mudslinging, this attempt to raise the morality issue did little to derail Grover Cleveland's campaign against James G. Blaine. Also, Hamilton and Franklin were wayward men as well. Enough time has passed to negate the shock value of raising the Donna "Vagina Monologues" Hanover issue against Rudy. This pales in comparison to Rudy's handling of 9-11, which stands out all the more after Hurricane Katrina's exposure of bumbling at all levels of government.

[Alberta's Child]

There hasn't been a single President in the television age (and by this I mean going back to 1960 -- the first year that television audiences exceeded radio audiences in the U.S.) that didn't have a full head of hair and a clean-shaven face. Every one of them was relatively tall, too.

It's become part of the job description for the White House, and I'm sure Rudy Giuliani knows this better than anyone else.

[Graymatter]

Giuliani in 2008...
Does anybody remember Vice President Rockefeller? Moderate (or worse) on domestic issues, hawkish on foreign issues?

[montag813]

Anti-Arab Warrior Rudy over disgraceful Arab appeaser Condi any day.

[Gelato]

When push comes to shove and Rudy is the Republicans' best hope...

That will not happen in the primaries. Most of the names floating around as GOP candidates for President are moderates/liberals. They will split the moderate/liberal vote among them, leaving the bulk of the conservative base free to support a single conservative candidate.

Giuliani's sole appeal is as a maverick. Once he begins changing and panders to the right, he will lose that appeal. The media will turn against him as a phony.

Yet he knows he cannot win without the conservative base. With his liberal history, gaining that base is impossible. He will never be trusted by the right. Once he starts trying to gain that trust, his appeal among his supporters will be lost.

It's a catch-22 that makes him unelectable.