Remember that in October of 2003, Terri was rescued by many, many people and lots of prayer.
Something went horribly wrong in 2005 but paybacks are hell imo, as in political paybacks for one.
Posted on 10/01/2005 6:32:54 AM PDT by topher
The only issue that David Gibbs can ever remember Jesse Jackson and Rush Limbaugh agreeing on was the fact that Terri Schiavo should remain alive.
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Gibbs called removing Schiavo's feeding tube "barbaric and uncivilized." Florida law does not allow the starvation of animals and the constitution does not allow the starvation of convicted murderers, he said.
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Felos said faith-based organizations, religious leaders, priests and rabbis distorted the facts in the Schiavo case.
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(Excerpt) Read more at palmbeachdailynews.com ...
Bioethicist Comments on Committee's Decision Excerpts:
On Oct. 4, the National Bioethics Committee (NBC) approved by a large majority a document in which it expresses "a decisive no to the suspension of artificial feeding and hydration" of patients who maintain normal vital functions and breathe autonomously, even if they are not conscious.
To give water and food are not medical acts, and do not configure cases of therapeutic cruelty, at least until it doesn't become obvious that they are totally useless, namely, that the organism is not capable of assimilating them.
They are, on the contrary, basic, normal care that must be assured to all patients insofar as a form of maintaining human life which can never be given up. On this the committee's document agrees by a large majority.
In the U.S. the whole debate was reduced to the question whether Terri wanted or did not want to die. But here, the NBC stresses, it is a decision for life or for death. Not even if the patient requests it are we authorized to suspend feeding and hydration, because the intrinsic value of human life also exceeds the value attributed to it by the individual. In other words, we are not the owners of our life.
A powerful editorial has appeared in The Empire Journal. It is well worth a look.
by Social Columnist Sessam E. Devas
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"We will do everything to enforce the power and authority of the Congress and no little judge sitting in a state district court in Florida is going to usurp the authority of Congress," Delay promised in March 2005 when referring to the lawless conduct there, of Judge Greer.
Thomas Delay's courageous statements were backed by facts and information he had indicating many criminal laws were being broken which protect all disabled persons and other incapacitated persons at the federal and state level , and that the life of a disabled person was about to be somehow "legally" snuffed out.
You are about to discover for yourselves, maybe for the first time, some of the details and violated laws that were known by Frist, Delay, Florida's Governor and subordinates, the Judges and law enforcement, doctors, attorneys and facilities that prohibited what happens in Florida criminally to their disabled and elderly population at the hands of the unscrupulous.
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Glad to see the Italians get it.
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Thogmartin emphasized the case is not closed
I feel Thogmartin is trying to save face among his peers with that remark.
Here's two for starters....
To the Editor:
Re your June 18 editorial about the Schiavo case:
We did not need an autopsy to know that Terri Schiavo had hopeless brain damage, or to know that many of her body's systems were normal.
Her family loved what was left of her and asked only to be permitted to care for her at their own expense.
My question is, Who or what was better served by her passive execution by water deprivation rather than by the first alternative?
Carl d'Angio, M.D.
Mount Vernon, N.Y., June 18, 2005
To the Editor:
Terri Schiavo's autopsy report claimed that she was probably blind. Supporters of the decision to starve her to death have hailed this finding as bolstering their argument that withdrawal of her feeding tube was ethical.
Their reasoning is hard to follow.
If Ms. Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state, blindness is a meaningless diagnosis. Only sentient people can see, and only sentient people can be blind. And if she were blind, then she was sentient, and the diagnosis of persistent vegetative state was a genuinely fatal mistake.
The lapses in logic aside, it's chilling to assert that it's more ethical to starve a handicapped person if that person is blind. This is what passes for ethics among advocates for euthanasia.
Michael Egnor, M.D.
Stony Brook, N.Y., June 18, 2005
Just wow! Someone else who gets it (Sessam Davis)! TEJ hits a home run!
Thanks for passing those on. It seems that the word 'bioethics' means anything but that these days.
The death cults don't need logic. They need words that work. If they can pile on half-truths or lies in the right context, chillingly, some will believe it.
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Terri was capable of assimilating food and water before they started their torture of her, and had she not succumbed, would have been capable of assimilating them for another decade, in all likelihood.
Thanks for the article!
Thanks 8mmMauser! Powerful editorial indeed by Devas!
Like I said before, the ME, Thogmartin was covering his butt with his statement in June in Diana Lynne’s Autopsy piece.
"It is the policy of this office that no case is ever closed and that all determinations are to be reconsidered upon receipt of credible, new information," he wrote. Pointing out that many of the pertinent documents in the case "were lost or discarded over the years," Thogmartin added, "Receipt of additional information that clarifies outstanding issues may or shall cause an amendment of her cause and manner of death."
Because in March he made this statement. (Frist/Delay) Devas' article.
The day after Terri Schiavo’s death the medical examiner stated in a press conference that he was not accepting any information and did not need to hear anything that her parents might want to bring forward and refused the request for a second and independent examination.
Clearly this was in violation of mandatory reporting law and can be seen as his criminal obstruction of justice thus confusing the public by discouraging anyone from coming forward with evidence.
He talks out of both sides of his mouth - there is no truth in the death squad.
I am simply in awe of the investigative work done there. ( But then, aren't we all!!!! )
"basic, normal care that must be assured to all patients"
Looks like the Dutch elderly, pregnant, hospital patients etc. need to move to Italy.
A pitch along these lines will be made to generations X,Y,Z, and Me - that the lives of boomers are too expensive; or that the money is more important that life. If it's spun right, many will buy it. The pitch will come directly from one of the two main political parties, or both.
Watch for it.
In June of 1997, the United States Supreme Court ruled the Constitution does not grant Americans the right to assisted suicide under the Fourteenth Amendment but simultaneously reaffirmed citizens have a constitutionally protected right to refuse lifesaving hydration and nutrition, along with other medical treatments.
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We read countless reports and saw documentation that Terri was denied therapy, medical care, and despite an outcry from people, Terri was killed by a gruesome and painful method, and no one has gone before a Grand Jury and no one has gone punished for such a heinous act.
Now fast forward – to Illinois and a different situation but one that runs parallel. Bonnie Howard recently pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter of 88 year-old Ann Jacobs, a resident under her care at Golden Senior Care.
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http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/100905SchiavoLawOrder.html
"no little judge" is right. I think it should read "NO CORRUPT EVIL JUDGE" re: Judge Greed.
www.judgegeorgegreer.com
Remember that in October of 2003, Terri was rescued by many, many people and lots of prayer.
Something went horribly wrong in 2005 but paybacks are hell imo, as in political paybacks for one.
Tom Gallagher for Governor: www.tg2006.com (he has a newsletter).
http://www.theempirejournal.com/1011055_Payback_That_Hides_Domestic_Genocide.html
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46725
(If this is a repeat, it's worth repeating.)
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