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Cops fire 77 bullets at gunman
New York Daily News ^ | Sept. 29, 2005 | VERONIKA BELENKAYA and ALISON GENDAR

Posted on 09/30/2005 9:00:39 PM PDT by HolgerDansk

Firing 77 bullets, cops wounded an ex-con early yesterday after he shot at another man and turned his weapon on police outside a Manhattan housing project, authorities and witnesses said.[...]

Six officers from Manhattan's 23rd and 28th Precincts and an NYPD housing unit fired at least 77 rounds at Rooks in two bursts of gunfire, said Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne.[...]

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Either we're talking "underpowered handguns", or law enforcement shooting standards need to come up a bit...
1 posted on 09/30/2005 9:00:41 PM PDT by HolgerDansk
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To: HolgerDansk

77 and he's still making CO2? Range time and maybe an NHRA beginners program.


2 posted on 09/30/2005 9:03:20 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: HolgerDansk

Lemme guess... 9MM?

sure, you got 17 rounds in there... and you need every single damn one of them. :-)


3 posted on 09/30/2005 9:04:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 800 knives and counting!)
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To: HolgerDansk

Sounds like good clean fun to me ! Always carry plenty-o-ammo!


4 posted on 09/30/2005 9:05:07 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: ncountylee

Whoa! Someone needs some more Range time.


5 posted on 09/30/2005 9:05:18 PM PDT by pgobrien (82d Abn Inf pings......)
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To: HolgerDansk

Wonder if they hit him more than once?


7 posted on 09/30/2005 9:08:47 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ncountylee
"maybe an NHRA beginners program."

National Hot Rod Association?

8 posted on 09/30/2005 9:09:59 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Ramius

They were just laying a barrage on him to discourage him from being too rambunctious.


9 posted on 09/30/2005 9:10:53 PM PDT by claudiustg (Vote for one Democrat, vote for them all...)
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To: HolgerDansk

77!? Either they are firing BBs or they need some better training.


10 posted on 09/30/2005 9:11:56 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora UN)
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77 and he's still making CO2? Range time and maybe an NHRA beginners program.""

NHRA as fas as I know stands for National Hot Rod Association, the main group that organises Drag Racing Events. I hope you really mean NRA beginners program.
The only "bullets" we use in NHRA is the term "bullets" is used to refer to more engines in the trailer to insert between rounds when you have ruined an engine.


11 posted on 09/30/2005 9:12:23 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: HolgerDansk

Bet he can dance now.


12 posted on 09/30/2005 9:13:35 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Just say NO to New Orleans.)
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To: GregoTX

Police not the only ones. Read our troops are using 250,000 rounds per terrorist In Iraq. Ammo being ordered fro Israel to make up for the shortfall.


13 posted on 09/30/2005 9:14:36 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: de Buillion; ridesthemiles

LOL my bad.


14 posted on 09/30/2005 9:15:43 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: HolgerDansk
From the article:

Several cops on the scene complained that NYPD Housing Bureau Inspection Capt. Vincent Salerno, who had been talking to officers before the shooting, sped off in an unmarked car despite hearing the gunfire.

NYPD officials said the captain could not immediately respond to the shooting because a frightened civilian had jumped into his car, possibly thinking it was a livery cab. The captain went to the shooting scene after getting the civilian out of his car, officials said.

He could not be reached for comment.

There's an interesting subplot. Captain Salerno had to drop off a "fare" before returning to the scene of the shooting?

Zoiks!

Meanwhile, I was unaware that the NYPD had adopted the Soviet infantry doctrine of "spray and pray".

But hey, it seems to have worked.

15 posted on 09/30/2005 9:16:04 PM PDT by Majic (Those who know the least pretend to know the most.)
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Heh. Indeed. Bet it at least kept his head down.

There was a story from Lacey WA, near my hometown, several years ago just after the department switched to the 9mm auto for their standard issue.

One guy with a machete, in a parking lot. He was surrounded by a semicircle of six cops in a standoff when he lunged at one of the officers with the machete. All six opened up on him. He was still swinging the machete until the 19th round hit him. Two or three times that were expended.

One or two hits center mass with a .45 or even a .357 would have ended the matter.

I'm not a big fan of the 9mm for law enforcement purposes.


16 posted on 09/30/2005 9:18:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 800 knives and counting!)
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To: HolgerDansk

Practice, gentlemen, practice. The only thing I know about self-defense with a gun is don't waste your shots.


17 posted on 09/30/2005 9:20:59 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: ozzymandus
Wonder if they hit him more than once

That's what I was wondering, too.

18 posted on 09/30/2005 9:27:05 PM PDT by Peace Is Coming
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Well, what you people have to realize is that the weapon issued is a Glock 9mm. Which will pass though a suspect and the wall and so on.
These guys need to be armed with a 357. Sig 40 s&w or a 45. but the liberal powers that be will never allow that.
This is from the mouth of a NYPD officer I spoke to at the National Law Enforcement Memorial.


19 posted on 09/30/2005 9:33:14 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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"Ammo being ordered fro Israel to make up for the shortfall."

What is the world coming to? Killing Muslim terrorists with Israeli Ammo? I can't think of anything more politically Incorrect- or fitting!

20 posted on 09/30/2005 9:42:04 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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