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To: AMERIKA

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What percentage of priests have a homosexual orientation?
Nobody knows, with any degree of accuracy.

Any discussion of the role of homosexual orientation in the priesthood -- in fact any discussion of clergy abuse itself -- is hampered by a lack of hard, reliable data.

Some estimates of the percentage of current priests with a homosexual orientation:

Analysis of the estimates of others: According to Amanda Ripley of Time Magazine, estimates range from 15% to 50%. 3
According to Bill Blakemore of ABC News, "...nobody knows what percentage of the American priesthood is gay; estimates range from less than 10% to more than 30%." 4

Personal estimates: Richard Sipe, a psychotherapist and former priest, has studied celibacy, chastity, and sexuality in the priesthood for four decades. He has authored three books on the topic. He once estimated that 30% of the priesthood is homosexually oriented. 5 Elsewhere, he is quoted as estimating that between 25% and 45% of American priests are homosexual in orientation. 6 He told the Boston Globe: "If they were to eliminate all those who were homosexually oriented, the number would be so staggering that it would be like an atomic bomb; it would do the same damage to the church's operation...It would mean the resignation of at least a third of the bishops of the world. And it's very much against the tradition of the church; many saints had a gay orientation, and many popes had gay orientations. Discriminating against orientation is not going to solve the problem."
Sister Maryanne Walsh, spokesperson for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, said that it would it be difficult to find evidence to support these Sipe's estimates of the percentage of gay men in the priesthood. She feels that it is also irrelevant. She said: "There’s no real purpose in saying whether someone is homosexual or heterosexual. The issue is whether they can make a commitment [to chastity]." 6
Bishop Jerome Listecki is an auxiliary bishop in Chicago. He estimates that "perhaps more than 10%" of priests have a homosexual orientation." (Emphasis ours). 5
Father Donald Cozzens, an author, psychologist, and Catholic seminary president says that there is such a high percentage of gay priests in the church that he is concerned that “the priesthood is or is becoming a gay profession.” 5 In his book, "The Changing Face of the Priesthood," -- published in the year 2000 -- he estimates that 50% of Roman Catholic priests have a homosexual orientation.
A NBC report on chastity and the clergy found that "anywhere from 23 percent to 58 percent" of the Catholic clergy have a homosexual orientation. 7
Author and sociologist James G. Wolfe estimated that 48.5% of priests were gay. 8

Actual surveys: In the Fall of 1999, the Kansas City Star sent a questionnaire to 3,000 priests in the U.S. 73% did not reply. The low response rate could be anticipated. One would expect homosexuals and bisexuals to be reluctant to respond to the questionnaire since it deals with such a sensitive issue, and originated from a newspaper. Homosexual and bisexual priests would probably be less likely to reply to the survey. Among the 801 priests who did reply: 75% said they had a heterosexual orientation;
15% homosexual;
5% bisexual. 9

During 1990, Rev. Thomas Crangle, a Franciscan priest in Passaic, N.J., mailed a survey to 500 randomly selected priests. Of the 398 responses, about 45% said that they were gay. 10


Conclusion: If we assume that all of the estimates are of equal validity, then about 33% of priests have a homosexual orientation -- about one in three.


21 posted on 09/30/2005 11:41:53 AM PDT by AMERIKA ("Liberate Te Ex Inferis")
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To: AMERIKA
"Conclusion: If we assume that all of the estimates are of equal validity, then about 33% of priests have a homosexual orientation --"

As my 2y/o grandson would say, "Ohhhhh Noooooooo".

45 posted on 09/30/2005 12:00:06 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: AMERIKA

"Conclusion: If we assume that all of the estimates are of equal validity, then about 33% of priests have a homosexual orientation -- about one in three."

Conclusion: If you use that reasoning on your job, no matter what it is, you're fired.

The very way those "surveys" are mentioned, in the sources you cite, shows that they are utterly unreliable, therefore worthless. No controls. The guy who sends out the questionnaires...processes them, and then announces the results. Hmmm? Agenda, anyone?




51 posted on 09/30/2005 12:05:30 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: AMERIKA

That's a lot of estimates; I still haven't seen any proof. It is notable, too, that some of these estimates are coming from people who are psychotherapists or counselors, who may have a distorted idea of the numbers because of the patients that they see.


146 posted on 09/30/2005 5:03:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: AMERIKA
I know this is a stupid comment, but when someone enters the priesthood or religious life, I thought they are no longer to be thinking about having sex with anyone. When I was discerning a vocation, sex was very near the bottom of my list. BTW, after much prayer and spiritual direction, I married my husband 17 years ago.

Just the same, as a married woman, I know that it would be a sin to entertain thoughts of sex with anyone other than my husband. The Church teaches Chastity in whatever state you are in--and this includes especially in your thoughts (since they lead to action).

158 posted on 09/30/2005 7:30:36 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: AMERIKA

Excellent summary. My hypothesis and guess is that the Catholic ordained clergy in the US is probably 40% and focused in seminaries.


195 posted on 10/01/2005 12:56:18 AM PDT by Falconspeed (Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others. Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: AMERIKA

Are those studies about the AMchurch or worldwide? I really hope its just the church here, we're only 6% of the whole of the Catholic church, and I can't tell you how comforting that is to me on a daily basis..


254 posted on 10/02/2005 8:45:44 PM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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