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Some Jews join anti-war protests, but worry about radical bedfellows (duh!)
JTA ^ | 9/27/05 | Kampeas

Posted on 09/30/2005 10:14:17 AM PDT by pabianice

WASHINGTON, Sept. 28 (JTA) — Hours before a demonstration against the Iraq war swelled to tens of thousands of people, a few dozen protesters packed a stately synagogue in downtown Washington and considered Egypt. Not the current regime of Hosni Mubarak, but the plight of the Hebrews under pharaoh millennia ago — “caught between a rock and a hard place,” as Rabbi Arthur Waskow told the congregants at the Shabbat service last weekend.

The rock the Jewish protesters faced was their impassioned opposition to the Iraq war, while the hard place was the vituperative anti-Israeli sentiment among some of their anti-war allies.

Between sermons, worshippers discussed which events to attend that weekend and which to avoid because of the likely presence of virulent anti-Zionism.

The service, a joyful melding of psalms and protest songs, offered Jewish protesters a way through, Waskow said afterward.

“We figured out a way to honor Shabbat and to celebrate the Jewish values of Israel and the Jewish values of ‘seek peace and pursue it,’ “ said Waskow, who heads Philadelphia’s Shalom Center.

It’s a dilemma that the national Jewish leadership may soon face as support for the war falls. In surveys last year, U.S. Jews opposed the war in even greater numbers than non-Jews, while recent surveys show that a majority of Americans oppose how the Bush administration is handling the situation.

Jewish officials say privately that they’re seeking an outlet for burgeoning anti-war sentiment at the grassroots level, but the problem is that some of the war’s leading opponents — such as Cindy Sheehan, a mother whose son died in the war — equate the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq with Israel’s occupation of the West Bank.

Some of the best-organized groups — and those likeliest to attend anti-war protests — do not stop at criticizing Israeli policy but reject Israel’s very existence. International A.N.S.W.E.R., a cosponsor of several of the weekend events, speaks of Israel as “within the borders of historic Palestine.”

Jewish protesters spoke of their discomfiture at sharing space with placards accusing Israel of being the dog that wags the American tail.

Waskow avoided events associated with A.N.S.W.E.R. Rabbi Michael Lerner, of the San Francisco-based Tikkun community, joined those events, but told followers that he wished organizers had heeded his calls to distance the rally from A.N.S.W.E.R.

That company has kept many of the top Jewish groups silent since the war began in March 2003. Prior to the war, the Reform, Conservative and Orthodox streams each issued statements supporting its objectives — the removal of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction — but stopping short of endorsing the war outright. More than two years later that equivocation continues. Spokesmen for the Reform and Orthodox movements referred JTA to their prewar statement, and a Conservative movement official said there was little demand at the grassroots for an organizational position.

“We haven’t had any discussions recently as an organization,” said Mark Waldman, director of public policy for United Synagogue.

Jewish defense organizations and pro-Israel groups by and large also expressed support for Bush administration objectives at the war’s outset, but stopped short of explicitly endorsing the war.

Recently there have been signs of a shift toward criticism. The Reform movement and the Anti-Defamation League noted with alarm revelations last year that captives in U.S. custody had been tortured.

Those images prompted Rabbis for Human Rights-North America to launch a rabbinic letter in January, citing Jewish teachings, to call on President Bush and Congress to end torture, inhumane treatment and degradation of captives. Administration officials say some of the conventions against torture do not apply to captives suspected of terrorism because they are not traditional soldiers in uniform.

“We understand that the most fundamental ethical principle, which results from our belief in God as Creator of the world and Parent of all humanity, is that every human being is seen as reflecting the Image of God,” says the letter, which so far has accrued 600 signatories from all Jewish streams. “Torture shatters and defiles God’s image.”

The group is not contemplating a broader encomium against the war in Iraq, said its executive director, Rabbi Brian Walt, because its mandate is strictly human rights and not broader political issues. But the groundswell of support for the petition suggests a desire for a more substantive statement from the Jewish community, he said.

“Torture is such a challenging topic, no one wants to think about it,” Walt said. “Most Americans do not believe Americans would do such a thing, but the reality is that we are.”

The group was counseling rabbis to address the topic in High Holiday sermons.

Whether a major group moves beyond the specific issue of torture to a broader indictment of the war remains an open question. United for Peace and Justice, the umbrella body that organized this weekend’s events, hopes to nudge the anti-war movement to a middle ground that would make mainstream Jewish groups and others more comfortable with its message, spokesman Bill Dobbs said.

“We planned three days of events: a rally, a march, a concert with speakers, a peace and justice festival, an interfaith service, civil disobedience, a large lobbying effort,” he told JTA. “Of all of those events, two of them” — the march and the concert — “were cosponsored by A.N.S.W.E.R.”

Dobbs suggested the movement could move further toward accommodating those uncomfortable with the radicals’ message.

One problem, he said, is reconciling groups like his that advocate an immediate withdrawal from Iraq with those who advocate a managed exit strategy.

Waskow, who was arrested Monday in front of the White House with another 370 protesters, said that the weekend’s events were successful overall and offered an outlet for young Jews who oppose the war but hear little about it from their community’s leaders.

“We were able to bring a positive Jewish message and to be able to affirm clearly that our Jewish values include an affirmation of the State of Israel,” he said. “I’m deeply disappointed at the silence of the larger Jewish organizations about the war. They’ve wasted a hunk of next generations of Jews, and wasted a connection with decent parts of the anti-war movement.”


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Once again my fellow Jews demonstrate education beyond the ability to understand and the insane choice of self-congratulatory politics over self-interest.
1 posted on 09/30/2005 10:14:17 AM PDT by pabianice
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Fence-riding on a very sharp barbed-wire fence.


2 posted on 09/30/2005 10:16:50 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: pabianice

Our people are entering a new Awakening... patience, it will take some time to fully reverse the depredations of socialism.


3 posted on 09/30/2005 10:17:04 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Aren't the "reality-based community" folks the same ones who insist there is no objective reality?)
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True.


4 posted on 09/30/2005 10:19:16 AM PDT by TSchmereL (words)
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Waskow, who was arrested Monday in front of the White House with another 370 protesters, said that the weekend’s events were successful overall and offered an outlet for young Jews who oppose the war but hear little about it from their community’s leaders

The left is delighted that so many young Jews are susceptible to the clarion call of the socialist. After all, Israel is socialist, socialists are for the "people" and this war is clearly a republican war over oil. No wonder the Jews can be sucked in. Where are the Jews of old who led the intellectual communities? I hope they are fleeing the left and moving into the republican party in large numbers. (Note to my fellow Jews, the republican party no longer seeks to deny country club memberships to Jews.)

5 posted on 09/30/2005 10:21:44 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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ANSWER and Cindy Sheehan are not just "anti-Zionist", but anti-Semitic. The Rabbi Lerner incident comes to mind.

It's sad that many Jews are choosing to ally themselves with these groups.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 10:22:14 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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Jews who join in those Israel-bashing demonstrations must have some serious psychological issues. I would recommend that they have a heart-to-heart talk with their rabbi.


7 posted on 09/30/2005 10:24:03 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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Well, all my Jewish friends and relatives voted for W. I was the odd one out.

But in the previous election they all voted for Gore.

We are making progress.
8 posted on 09/30/2005 10:26:05 AM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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the hard place was the vituperative anti-Israeli sentiment among some of their anti-war allies

The Palestinians want Jews eradicated from the "River to the Sea". The so called anti-war (but pro Israeli eradication) folks are agreeable to the extermination of all the Jews in Israel now and elsewhere later.

With the passing of Eli Wiesel so fresh these people should be ashamed.

9 posted on 09/30/2005 10:26:12 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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The left is delighted that so many young Jews are susceptible to the clarion call of the socialist.

A new generation of Capos.

10 posted on 09/30/2005 10:28:33 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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Jews hating the war but forget how war freed them from the concentration camps in WWII. How quickly they forget...just like the people of New York about 9/11


11 posted on 09/30/2005 10:29:39 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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12 posted on 09/30/2005 10:32:08 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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Hey! War never accomplished ANYTHING! Donchaknow.

SARCASM!!!!
13 posted on 09/30/2005 10:32:46 AM PDT by Mylo ( scientific discovery is also an occasion of worship.)
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The democrat party has become financially controlled by anti-semitic whack-jobs who now dominate the party through the far-left 527 organizations: the horrific unintended consequence of campaign "reform."

Here is some of the International ANSWER democrat party anti-war, anti-semitic propaganda:


14 posted on 09/30/2005 10:34:44 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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I've seen it before. Places like Democratic Underground have people who think being a "real" Christian (more Christian than their opponents) is allying oneself with those who say Christianity is a lie.

Kids are taught early on that self-hatred and values nullfication is a virtue.


15 posted on 09/30/2005 10:35:10 AM PDT by Andy00
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My hubby and I were watching some of the speakers for this event on C-Span. Two mid eastern looking speakers wore those white and black checked head scarves Arafat used to wear. A few of the other speakers frequently referred to the rights of the Palestinians. Even I was shocked.

Only the promoters and very young were exuberant with their applause.
16 posted on 09/30/2005 10:35:30 AM PDT by keats5
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You got me to wondering if he was buried with one of those scarves on his head.


17 posted on 09/30/2005 10:42:58 AM PDT by rwa265 (The Promise of the Lord, I Will Proclaim Forever)
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I must be one crude and stupid Jew because I can see what's going on


18 posted on 09/30/2005 10:53:20 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't have other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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Only the promoters and very young were exuberant with their applause.

That's because they have no personal experience in a gulag or concentration camp or had the cold steel blade of an Islamic extremist resting on their neck before slicing their head off.


19 posted on 09/30/2005 10:53:34 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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20 posted on 09/30/2005 10:55:13 AM PDT by SJackson (we are forced to live in a democracy... the process is frustratingly slow, HRH Gov Blagojevich)
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