Posted on 09/29/2005 6:22:55 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
A group of Nobel Prize winners should have done more homework before criticizing proposed science standards in Kansas, advocates of the guidelines said in a letter Thursday.
Intelligent design advocates pushing new standards, which would expose students to more criticism of evolution, say the laureates' complaints are an attempt to suppress debate on the issue.
The letter was signed by Bill Harris, a professor of medicine at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, and Greg Lassey, a former middle school science teacher, who helped draft the disputed language.
"We all want good standards," the letter said. "However, demeaning rhetoric that does not address specifics but serves only to belittle and misrepresent the changes is not helpful."
Earlier this month, 38 laureates, including prominent chemists, physicists and medical experts, asked the State Board of Education to reject the proposed standards.
The laureates, led by Holocaust survivor and author Elie Wiesel, said evolution is the foundation of biology and that it has been bolstered by DNA studies.
Many scientists see intelligent design as another form of creationism, which the Supreme Court has banned from public schools.
Intelligent design theorists believe the complexity of the natural world cannot be explained except by attributing creation to some higher intelligence.
The Kansas board expects to vote this year on the standards, which will be used to develop tests for students but would allow local boards to decide how science is taught.
From your previous reply I interpreted it to mean you never went to sunday school.
Don't have to. We do not teach the Koran either. Sunday school is not a public supported institution.
Mute point.
Blessings, Bobo
Churches are supported by the public in that they receive tax exemptions. If it were a residence or business or even vancant land, it would be generating taxes so thus the church is supported by the public.
You may be right. I quit somewhere about the time they were telling about how women had one less rib than men ...
Talk about a major booboo ...
18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Another good open letter is here:
http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/368
I didn't know that just anybody could add a keyword. I'm still new at this and learning my way around this site. There are a lot of terms I see and understand but don't know how to use them.
property used for educational and charitable purposes is usually exempt from property taxes. in MN manure pits are exempt.
its not a good argument for determing if the gov has a right to walk in and make rules.
Whoa! I think you might want to wonder on over to DU.
Churches are supported by concrete foundations (generally speaking).
Generally they get built and attended by people (who do pay taxes).
Occasionally (not as often as should be the case) they perform some pretty significant functions for the rest of the tax payers (such as feeding the hungry, clothing the nekid, housing the homeless, that sort of thing).
In those (admittedly a little too rare) instances that they do those things, they do it much better than the institutions which ARE supported by TAX dollars. And they do them WITHOUT tax dollars, but rather the donations from those tax payers who are too stupid and mindless to know that there is no GOD, and are tricked into donating their money for such purposes.
Churches are supported by the public in that they receive tax exemptions. If it were a residence or business or even vancant land, it would be generating taxes so thus the church is supported by the public.
tax exemptions=public support? Okaaaaaaay.
Well, considering all the charitable work many churches are known for doing, I think the public is getting it's money's worth. Churches are certainly more effective than FEMA or any other gov't agency.
There was a guy named Emil Chargaff who as an elder statesman of biology when Crick and Watson were young Turks on the make. Chargaff was a proponent of the "unimagineably complex" concept, and held Crick and Watson in contempt for their naive belief that they could make progress by making tinker-toy models. He called them "pitch men" because the were always talking about the pitch of the DNA helix.
Then when the structure of DNA was discovered, it was said it would take 50 years to decipher the code, and it happened in less than 10 years. Here we are after 50 years and the human genome is laid out before you on the internet, and you're still stuck on "UNIMAGINEABLY complex".
Uh, if one speaks the truth here, they are pointed to the DU? hmmmm.
Actually it was the MAN who had the rib removed. It would have only been Adam who was short one. There's no indication that it would have become genetic and extended to the whole human race so where did that story ever come from?
I think I hit a sore point ...
Churches are no longer holy places. They are now businesses paying outrageous salaries to the pastors that go to the highest bidder. The church buys the "pastor" inorder to be able to recruit more members and their donations.
From the creationists?
Poo Poo. There. I've just poo poo'd your argument. You're still stuck on counting noses and toes.
I've said it elsewhere on this thread, but I'll repeat it.
Evolution, and it's siamese twin abiogenesis, believe that life is so simple that pond scum was able to come up with it about 4 billion years ago (without the benefit of PBS).
So, let's get on with the proof that we are smarter than pond scum. Let's whip up a little synthetic life, shall we? How HARD can it be, for crying out loud?
I'm sorry to hear that. Take two asprin and call me in the morning :-)
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