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Rather's Comforting Words for Mapes: 'F--k 'Em All' (FR mentioned)
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Posted on 09/27/2005 5:44:14 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

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To: RatherBiased.com

F-k 'Em All?

Is that from the gang movie "Colors" from 1988 Starring Sean Penn and Robert Duvall?

Duvall tells Penn a story about 2 bulls sitting on a ridge looking down at a herd of cows. One bull says, "lets run down there and 'screw' one of those cows." The other bull says, "No, lets walk down there and 'screw' em all."

This probably isn't the original of this story. But, if this is the context of Dan Rather's phrase, then it fits in perfectly with CBS and Rather's agenda.

That's what Dan did to his loyal viewers for many years, he F'ed em all.


201 posted on 09/27/2005 3:17:00 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: TankerKC
The docs were so bad that all it took as a 2 second glance to tell that they were fake. I posted at 8:19 Central time saying that we needed to see more of them. They are confusing my quick call with the detailed analysis that followed.

Thanks. It's not clear whether that mistake stems from ignorance or malicious intent, since Mapes and Rather are obviously well supplied with both...

202 posted on 09/27/2005 3:17:49 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: TankerKC

Yep, it was you TankerKC. You didn't get the notoriety that you deserved, but seeing as how "they" treated Buckhead, that might not be a bad thing. It was a stunning episode that the MSM still doesn't fully understand.


203 posted on 09/27/2005 3:21:20 PM PDT by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: Paradox
Yeah Buckhead took the heat. I did get a couple of whack job who contacted me after my real name showed up in the Columbia Journalism Review. One local guy was sure I should have criminal charges filed.
204 posted on 09/27/2005 3:24:05 PM PDT by TankerKC (Done with the NFL..)
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To: proud American in Canada; GWB00; Buckhead; Howlin
"I can't find it, though. I've tried "60 Minutes" and "live thread" but it doesn't come up. I wish there were some way to search the content of threads.

Buckhead and Howlin, I know it's almost a year ago, but do you have it saved somewhere?"


Is this it?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210516/posts
205 posted on 09/27/2005 3:25:51 PM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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To: Ditto

"Peripheral spacing"-maybe that is a term for some sort of Quantum time/space travel. Yes, that explains it. That's the only way to travel to the parallel universe where Lucy Ramirez exists.

Maybe Louis Farrakhan can explain "peripheral spacing" to all of us. And maybe the commandos that blew up the levees in NO hide out in this parallel universe.


206 posted on 09/27/2005 3:26:57 PM PDT by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: razorback-bert

PING!


207 posted on 09/27/2005 4:24:14 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (WAR: 1/3 yes, 1/3 no, 1/3 undecided; So began the American Revolution)
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To: RatherBiased.com

This is such a compliment to Freepers and especially “Buckhead” if it’s true.

Of course she’s offended and appalled. “Oh, how dare someone be mad at us spewing lies and pushing our agenda?” “How could possibly someone think that they can formulate ideas and gather facts on their own?”

If you really think about it, her book is an arrogant and self ingratiating attempt to make herself appear as a victim. Pathetic at best!

Red6


208 posted on 09/27/2005 4:27:22 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Texas Songwriter

The fact that Columbia hires people like Kalb is a good reason to not go there ~


209 posted on 09/27/2005 4:42:22 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: RatherBiased.com

bttt


210 posted on 09/27/2005 5:01:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RatherBiased.com
Within a few minutes, I was online visiting Web sites I had never heard of before: Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, Power Line.

It says a lot about your ability to give a balanced viewpoint that you had never heard of three hugely popular conservative websites. I’ll bet you knew Kos and DU.

All these Web sites had extensive write-ups on the documents: on typeface, font style, and peripheral spacing

Peripheral spacing! No, Mary, that’s “proportional spacing”. You know, the printing technique that helped destroy your career? Even NOW you don’t know its correct name?

It had taken our analysts hours of careful work to make comparisons.

After their "careful work," your analysts told you that they could not validate the authenticity of the documents. Actually, any moron could have told you the same thing, since the documents were COPIES. You know, as in NOT ORIGINALS? Copies obtained from a highly partisan source with an obvious grudge against Bush? You used the documents anyway. You pretended they had validity. You, as usual, crossed the line that separates reporters from propagandists. Nothing you said after that could be trusted.

That first entry, posted by a longtime Republican political activist lawyer who used the name “Buckhead,” set the tone for what was to come.

Can you report ANYTHING correctly? The first post was by TankerKC, over three hours before Buckhead posted.

There was no analysis of what the documents actually said, no work done to look at the content, no comparison with the official record, no phone calls made to check the facts of the story, nothing beyond a cursory and politically motivated examination of the typeface.

Mary, how do we let you in on this? Once it is established that a document is forged, the contents are no longer presumed to be valid. The contents don’t matter anymore, except perhaps to establish the identity and motive of the forger.

politically motivated examination of the typeface

What the hell does that mean? That an apolitical examination of the typeface would have proven the documents to be authentic?

Did it ever occur to you to apologize to the American public for presenting highly dubious documents from a highly impeachable source, documents that might have changed the outcome of a presidential election? I doubt it. You probably are proud to be a liberal propagandist. It's what you do, its what you are. What appalling arrogance.

I suppose I should end this on a positive note. So, I want to thank you for your part in demolishing what little credibility CBS maintained. You helped convince people that the MSM could not be trusted. You wanted to "make a difference," and you did. Mary, thanks very much.

211 posted on 09/27/2005 5:06:54 PM PDT by TChad
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To: RatherBiased.com
Mapes also claimed that the first criticism of the documents appeared before 60 Minutes had even ended and before the documents were put up on the CBS website. But the forum hosting the criticism was from the West coast, with an earlier timezone.

If Mapes actually made this claim, it provides us with more evidence that she is stupid. Apparantly, she thinks activity on the Internet is staggered across time zones in the same way that broadcast TV shows are. Internet activity does not work this way. The Freepers who raised the first questions about her forged documents were in the Eastern and Central time zones, which saw the 60-Minute broadcast at the same time, before those on the West Coast saw it.

212 posted on 09/27/2005 5:10:43 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: NordP

Rather - the consummate pro...


213 posted on 09/27/2005 5:14:00 PM PDT by GAD
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To: RatherBiased.com

"That was all they had to attack, but that was enough."

Just a little bit of truth and facts ARE enough!


214 posted on 09/27/2005 5:37:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: PigRigger

But would they react the same way if an anonymous source produced say....a Roll Call & Meeting Minutes document from the VVAW meeting where Kerry and his fellow traitors plotted to assassinate US Senators?
Would that be treated as an important story - accurate no matter the credibility of the evidence?


215 posted on 09/27/2005 5:40:07 PM PDT by Ludicrous (I support a woman's right to choose an effective contraception method)
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To: RatherBiased.com

See BS has a propensity to hire idiots and pretend that they are honest upright journalists. What a joke!


216 posted on 09/27/2005 5:48:09 PM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: RatherBiased.com; All
Outstanding thread bump!

New media. New freedom. New life. Better world.

217 posted on 09/27/2005 5:50:17 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: RatherBiased.com

These two aren't even worth the f word.


218 posted on 09/27/2005 5:53:13 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: GladesGuru
FReeper Eye For the Liberal Lie.

LOLOL!

219 posted on 09/27/2005 6:09:45 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: TChad
Within a few minutes, I was online visiting Web sites I had never heard of before: Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, Power Line. It says a lot about your ability to give a balanced viewpoint that you had never heard of three hugely popular conservative websites. I’ll bet you knew Kos and DU. Actually, she probably didn't. You have no idea how insulated most TV news people are from regular folks. They live in their own little world.
220 posted on 09/27/2005 6:25:43 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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